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Bush to Try to Clarify Immigration Stance
Newsday ^ | 6/8/2005

Posted on 06/08/2005 5:39:25 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak

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To: datura
Private industry is capable of SEALING the borders in less than 6 months.

Give me an example of that.

41 posted on 06/08/2005 6:05:30 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
"He admitted he hasn't done a very good job in being clear to the American people where he's coming from, and he's going to try to do better,"

Mr. President, please clarity the amnesty program that isn't really an amnesty program for me, sir? Of course, English being my second language, I could be mistaken, but so far, it sure sounds like you want to provide a super highway for illegals to become legal here no matter what you call it.

As an immigrant who went through the legal process to become a citizen of this great country, I RESENT your proposal DEEPLY, sir.

42 posted on 06/08/2005 6:05:50 PM PDT by Chong (America is Too Great for Small Dreams. Ronald Reagan.)
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To: demkicker
100% of the Republican party has given Bush an F in grading his boarder policy.

Do you have a link to that poll?

43 posted on 06/08/2005 6:06:15 PM PDT by Howlin (Up or down on Janice Brown!)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
He admitted he hasn't done a very good job in being clear to the American people where he's coming from, and he's going to try to do better," said Delay, who attended the White House session where the president discussed his legislative agenda.

Oh, I think he's made it perfectly clear where he's coming from. "He's going to TRY to do better?" Now, that's a big joke. He's had 4 years to get it right. He's on a mission to destroy America with his open borders, global mentality, and he's doing a darn good job of it.

44 posted on 06/08/2005 6:07:59 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (I don*t know what the future holds, but I know who holds the future. His name is Jesus Christ....)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Why not find out what our wishes are, or put our wishes to a vote rather than you tell us what your policy is, Mr. President?
45 posted on 06/08/2005 6:08:19 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: commonasdirt
And since YOU are so knowledgable why don't don't you tell us one effective thing he has done to stop illegals and drugs from crossing the border. Take your time, I'll wait

Uh signing and not vetoing the Real ID act.

Oh darn you can't go with your "damned if he does, damned if he doesn't" rhetoric schtick anymore.

46 posted on 06/08/2005 6:08:24 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: rmmcdaniell

"Translation: I'm going to try to spin some more lies..." I agree. I think the key to the story is this: Bush is feeling some pressure, and feels he has to throw some kind of bone to DeLay, but he still believes he can stonewall the immigration issue---continue the "do nothing" policy.

I do not believe, however, the problem will go unaddressed till 2008. I predict a large setback for the GOP in 2006, based on the fillibuster failure + immigration. I think the GOP conservative focus in 2006 will be more in defeating RINOs than Democrats.

In the short run, the GOP will suffer. In the long run, it will be strengthened. In the aftermath of the 2006 debacle, I believe Bush will reluctantly return to the business of government, after his happy interlude of focus on Social Security, stem cells, and Terry Shiavo.


47 posted on 06/08/2005 6:09:04 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
His do nothing policy is coming back to bite him and his Illegal-Immigrant supporters in the arse. Poll after Poll shows Americans are fed up with his Idiocy. That and the fact that their inaction is causing the death and rape of American Children and Mothers. To say nothing of the Barbaric tactics M13 uses in this country(Beheadings and such).

Know this well, the people who come to these forums and espouse their Pro-Illegal(amnesty) views are traitors and have the blood of Americans on their hands.

48 posted on 06/08/2005 6:10:19 PM PDT by JustAnAmerican (A Militant Conservative. Wusses beware.)
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To: Dane
Kyl has gotten a little tougher on the issue, must be catching a lot of heat in AZ.

Cornyn I am not sure of.

49 posted on 06/08/2005 6:10:50 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
In a meeting with members of Congress, President Bush said he needs to do a better job explaining his position on immigration changes, House Majority Leader Tom Delay said Wednesday.

"He admitted he hasn't done a very good job in being clear to the American people where he's coming from, and he's going to try to do better,"

Better late than never.....I guess

Here's to the many knowledgeable FReepers no longer posting over GWB's "un-clear" position on (illegal) immigration.

50 posted on 06/08/2005 6:11:01 PM PDT by txdoda ("Navy Brat")
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To: strategofr
I do not believe, however, the problem will go unaddressed till 2008. I predict a large setback for the GOP in 2006, based on the fillibuster failure + immigration. I think the GOP conservative focus in 2006 will be more in defeating RINOs than Democrats.

Bookmarking swami.

51 posted on 06/08/2005 6:11:42 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: upchuck

"She knows she can pick up plenty of right-leaning votes by seeming to be tough on Criminal Aliens."

You direct our attention wisely. I see it a little differently. Hillary's basic game is to play the "tough conservative"---only relative to the Democrats. I do not believe she is going after conservative votes with this. She is going after the votes in the middle. I think she can safely sit this one out and let the GOP tear themselves apart over it.


52 posted on 06/08/2005 6:12:19 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

The immigrant invasion has degraded the glories of US democracy, and exploited our precious freedoms for fraudulent personal gain.

The latest outrage is foreigners renting out their SS numbers so their compadres can fraudulently collect tax-paid benefits.


It's enormously revealing, and indicative of the problem we're up against, that Americans are bashed and belittled for simply defending their country.

We, the people---the taxpayers---are continually ignored b/c we want it stopped and criminals prosectued.


Let us not forget that America is a democracy, governed by a Constitution. and that every American worth his/her salt comes to the aid of their country when it is under attack.


We cannot tolerate self-appointed tribal supra-governments, run by self-important dictators undermining democracy, decreeing what Americans can think, or speak.

What these foreigners need to do is seek professional help for their self-esteem problems, rather than getting ego gratification by beating up on, and ripping off, Americans.


53 posted on 06/08/2005 6:12:21 PM PDT by Liz (A society of sheep must, in time, beget a government of wolves. Bertrand de Jouvenal)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Anyone who "questions" Bush's stance on immigration needs to realize his his stance is the norm amongst Republicans. They are all afraid of properly securing the borders and deporting the illegals for fear of being branded as racists.

The one lone Republican who will take a proactive stance on the issue is Tom Tancredo, the Congressman from Colorado.

This issue will be the one issue that divides the Republicans in '08, but I'm willing to bet that most Republicans (including Hispanics) will be in favor of a candidate that properly deals with the issue.

Tancredo '08


54 posted on 06/08/2005 6:12:43 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel (Our only fault is that we're 40 minutes north of Boston.)
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To: NRA2BFree
He's on a mission to destroy America with his open borders, global mentality, and he's doing a darn good job of it.

Hehehe... well, if you ain't got arguments... try hyperbole. It works for liberals, maybe we can get some mileage out of it too.

55 posted on 06/08/2005 6:12:57 PM PDT by Ramius (Don't get strung out... by the way I look...)
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To: puppypusher

Dittos


56 posted on 06/08/2005 6:13:04 PM PDT by nygoose
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
He needs to DO something to secure our borders rather than talk more empty rhetoric!
57 posted on 06/08/2005 6:13:16 PM PDT by RightWinger
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

"He admitted he hasn't done a very good job in being clear to the American people where he's coming from..."

Ya THINK? *Rolleyes*


58 posted on 06/08/2005 6:13:41 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Ramius

Short form:

It all depends upon one thing: Getting the approval of the Feds for private companies to arrest/hold/detain the illegals on their own (under supervision, of course, just like the private prisons in use throughout the US).

Once arrested trying to cross, the illegal is placed into one of the "camps". No pay. No lawyers. Administrative hearing or arraignment, followed by a set amount of time put to hard labor. Building a barrier. They are charged for their food, their housing, medication, you name it. If they work hard, and stay straight, they can pay off their arrest quickly - or on time. If not, they begin to "owe" the company. Additional time to work it off. Multiple offender? Longer time yet.

Yes, it sounds just like slavery. Sounds like the flow of illegals would come to a screeching halt real quick. You want in? FOLLOW THE DAMNED LAWS!!


59 posted on 06/08/2005 6:15:17 PM PDT by datura (Looking down at the bayonet sliding out of him, OBL read "Molon Labe" on the hilt.)
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To: demkicker

"the dems are so unhinged that unless he does secure the boarders, they will probably seize upon his negligence and help plan an attack!"

Good line! I think they understand the division of labor though. The dem job is to undermine our security from within. There are plenty willing to attack---once our guard is sufficiently lowered.


60 posted on 06/08/2005 6:15:34 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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