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To: rmmcdaniell

"Translation: I'm going to try to spin some more lies..." I agree. I think the key to the story is this: Bush is feeling some pressure, and feels he has to throw some kind of bone to DeLay, but he still believes he can stonewall the immigration issue---continue the "do nothing" policy.

I do not believe, however, the problem will go unaddressed till 2008. I predict a large setback for the GOP in 2006, based on the fillibuster failure + immigration. I think the GOP conservative focus in 2006 will be more in defeating RINOs than Democrats.

In the short run, the GOP will suffer. In the long run, it will be strengthened. In the aftermath of the 2006 debacle, I believe Bush will reluctantly return to the business of government, after his happy interlude of focus on Social Security, stem cells, and Terry Shiavo.


47 posted on 06/08/2005 6:09:04 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: strategofr
I do not believe, however, the problem will go unaddressed till 2008. I predict a large setback for the GOP in 2006, based on the fillibuster failure + immigration. I think the GOP conservative focus in 2006 will be more in defeating RINOs than Democrats.

Bookmarking swami.

51 posted on 06/08/2005 6:11:42 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: strategofr
I think the key to the story is this: Bush is feeling some pressure, and feels he has to throw some kind of bone to DeLay, but he still believes he can stonewall the immigration issue---continue the "do nothing" policy. I do not believe, however, the problem will go unaddressed till 2008. I predict a large setback for the GOP in 2006, based on the fillibuster failure + immigration. I think the GOP conservative focus in 2006 will be more in defeating RINOs than Democrats. In the short run, the GOP will suffer. In the long run, it will be strengthened."

Bump to that. Sadly.

70 posted on 06/08/2005 6:20:53 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (<-- sick of faux-conservatives who want federal government intervention for 'conservative things.')
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To: strategofr
"Bush will reluctantly return to the business of government, after his happy interlude of focus on Social Security, stem cells, and Terry Shiavo."

Those aren't the business of government?

121 posted on 06/08/2005 6:53:53 PM PDT by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: strategofr
I predict a large setback for the GOP in 2006, based on the fillibuster failure + immigration. I think the GOP conservative focus in 2006 will be more in defeating RINOs than Democrats.

EXACTLY. A political price will be paid in 2006. New motto: 2008 is too late.

Keep in mind the amnesty bill that may clear the way for alien / non-citizen voting. If we do not dump those that are trying to push this (in both parties), and this means you too Democrats... your voice is being replaced at the ballot box and the need to 'reach out' to the will of the legal citizen populace gets flushed. When factions of each party, let's say the NATIONAL SECURITY faction of each party, can be replaced with a block of new voters whose interests are NOT the security of this country, but what they can get from government, meaning taxpayers, this country and it's rule of law, exist no more for the people, but for the government.

283 posted on 06/09/2005 7:00:12 AM PDT by JesseJane (43 - First 'illegal alien' Presidente')
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