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Bush to Try to Clarify Immigration Stance
Newsday ^ | 6/8/2005

Posted on 06/08/2005 5:39:25 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak

WASHINGTON - In a meeting with members of Congress, President Bush said he needs to do a better job explaining his position on immigration changes, House Majority Leader Tom Delay said Wednesday.

"He admitted he hasn't done a very good job in being clear to the American people where he's coming from, and he's going to try to do better," said Delay, who attended the White House session where the president discussed his legislative agenda.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bordersecurity; bush43; bushamnesty; damagecontrol; delay; guestworker; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigrationplan; immigrationreform; issues; tancredo; term2
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To: Happy2BMe
This is laughable

If I weren't crying...

261 posted on 06/08/2005 10:22:31 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation 4th of July ~)
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To: JustAnAmerican

I am gonna have to agree here. Any self respecting Freeper who stands up for Bush at this time during a moment where it is clear as day to seal the fu-king borders and get control of immigration first,then they need to log off the computer and join a new version of the heaven's gate cult.

Bush has REALLY let me down this 2nd term. Iraq is a mess,our borders are a mess,insurance costs are through the roof,and we are letting the UN drag us around by the balls.

Bush had balls enough to take down Saddam and The Taliban.

Where did that man go that we all knew and loved so much?


262 posted on 06/08/2005 10:23:06 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
"He admitted he hasn't done a very good job in being clear to the American people where he's coming from, and he's going to try to do better.”

“What we've got here is failure to communicate.”

If President Bush really wanted to communicate clearly he would say: “I have allowed and abetted illegal entry in the U.S. because my business supporters profit handsomely from cheap labor.”

Well, he can’t say that can he? So he has to invent other reasons which his lack of verbal gifts does not elevate above the risible.

263 posted on 06/08/2005 10:23:21 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: mthom; Gipper08; Reagan Man; Reaganwuzthebest; MeekOneGOP; Smartass; SJackson; JohnHuang2; keri; ...
"He admitted he hasn't done a very good job in being clear to the American people where he's coming from, and he's going to try to do better," said Delay, who attended the White House session where the president discussed his legislative agenda."

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Translation for the politically ignorant:

"We know 2006 and 2008 will be here before we know it. We also know that we have almost ruined the Republican Party by completely ignoring and refusing to lift a single finger about the illegal alien invasion ruining this nation. Someday we may even ackowledge this problem openly among other Republicans. Now we are beginning to sweat small drops of blood and realize we could even lose our jobs over this and . ."

264 posted on 06/08/2005 10:25:01 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Howlin; demkicker
Do you have a link to that poll?

Not 100%, but certainly not in Bush's favor:

A Review of Polls on Illegal Immigration

265 posted on 06/08/2005 10:26:11 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: B4Ranch; HiJinx; Dont_Tread_On_Me_888; SJackson
"Excuse me, I'm feeling quite ill."

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'LAISSEZ-FAIR' POLITICS WILL KILL US BEFORE THE JIHAD DOES

266 posted on 06/08/2005 10:31:03 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

YOUR POST SAYS IT ALL. You just hit the nail on the head.


267 posted on 06/08/2005 10:31:54 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Actually, the President's position has been quite clear (and reprehensible).

But it's possible that this recent admission and promise to "try to do better" is a good sign. ....we'll just have to wait and see.

268 posted on 06/08/2005 10:40:22 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: puppypusher

If President Bush is not going to do what I think he should do than we as American Citizens lose. Citizenship means nothing when illegals have the same rights that native born Americans have. Hold on to your wallet.

Same? Try MORE.


269 posted on 06/08/2005 10:41:59 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: kstewskis


"He admitted he hasn't done a very good job in being clear to the American people where he's coming from, and he's going to try to do better," said Delay,

I'm late to this thread.

I'm late here as well, but I don't really want to hear MORE about W's plan, I want him to change his plan. As in to actually promote enforcing the existing illegal immigration laws. And an apology to the Minutemen is in order.
270 posted on 06/08/2005 10:43:09 PM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Hoping to be a California Vigil Antie for the Minuteman Project)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Where did that man go that we all knew and loved so much?

He went to Mexico.

271 posted on 06/08/2005 11:08:43 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Howlin


FYI
UNDERSTAND THE MEXICAN BANK TRUST: FIDEICOMISO

Payment of the purchase price is not enough. In order to have a valid ownership interest in the property which you are buying, it is necessary to have a valid ownership interest in the property. The title must be recorded. This puts the rest of the world on notice that the property is yours. If you are a foreign person purchasing property in many parts of Mexico, the property will not transfer to your name, but to a Mexican bank as trustee for your interests. The Mexican constitution prohibits direct ownership of real property by foreigners in the "prohibited zone," a strip of land 30 miles wide along its sea coasts and 60 miles wide along its borders with the United States and Guatemala/Belize, as well as the entire Baja peninsula. This is the reason for the bank trust, the "fideicomiso," which has been established under the guidelines of the Mexican government so that foreigners may be protected in the property acquisitions.

http://www.gomanzanillo.com/features/dream/


272 posted on 06/08/2005 11:11:13 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Dog Gone

The truth is Bush could fix the problem with no new laws and almost no additional spending.

It is against the law to employ or harbor an illegal alien. It is against the law to conspire to break a federal law. The RICO law allows the government to not only arrest the owners, board of directors and the executives of an organization that consistently breaks federal law, but to confiscate their personal assets as well. Enforce the law.

Had the feds confiscated the assets of Tyson, Inc., and WalMart, as well as the personal assets of their Boards and their top executives, no company would be hiring the criminals today. Making examples of a couple of companies would eliminate the attraction of jobs.

It is also illegal for criminal aliens to get any welfare, food stamps, etc. The only handouts they are allowed to get are emergency medical care and schooling. Cut off every other hand out.

The medical care and schooling can be curtailed by requiring schools and medical facilities to report it every time they give service to a criminal alien. Neither the law, nor the Supreme Court ruling, that mandated free schooling for the criminals’ kids forbids that. (Lower courts have said it does, but Supremes have never ruled that way.)

Eliminate the jobs and you eliminate about half the problem. Eliminate the handouts and you eliminate the rest of the problem. Do these things, and the flood wouldn’t be the criminals coming into the country, it would be them stampeding back to where they belong.

All this requires is that the administration enforce the laws already on the books.


273 posted on 06/09/2005 2:05:07 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Black Tooth

Exactly. That is why a guest worker program is a sham.


274 posted on 06/09/2005 3:33:50 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Actions speak louder than words. I regret to say that his position is crystal clear.

Seal the borders. Yesterday!

275 posted on 06/09/2005 4:47:07 AM PDT by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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To: Prokopton
The problem is not just potential terrorists. The problem includes people coming here as common criminals to prey on our citizens with the huge attendant costs. The problem includes those coming here to suck off the largess of the American taxpayer with its significant impact on American families. The problem includes our loyal citizenry being diluted by those who owe no allegiance to our country or its founding principals. The problem is no less than the potential for the destruction of of our country, as we know it, and our cherished way of life.

I've made it to post #105 in this thread and so far yours is the best. I want to cry when I look around my city (Whittier, CA...Richard Nixon's hometown). This place used to be a great middle-class American community, and now it is steadily deteriorating into a ****hole like thousands of others in SoCal. Graffiti and blight everywhere and illegals (those "willing workers") hanging out at all major intersections and businesses. Every business in our Uptown had theirs windows etched recently - AGAIN - and the merchants are just giving up and letting it stand. They can't afford the expense of replacing them repeatedly. Most of the decent merchants are running up the white flag there and bailing. The extent that illegals have taken over the schools here is unreal, not to mention the traffic congestion, strain on our emergency rooms (don't get sick in Whittier), and increase in social services.

As far as the President's "clarification" on his stance, if he can't - or won't - walk the walk, I'd prefer he didn't talk the talk. It's tiresome.

276 posted on 06/09/2005 5:10:30 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: HiJinx
Well, okay, this may explain it...

"White House spokesman Taylor Gross said.....no updates to Bush's immigration principles."

NO UPDATES.

277 posted on 06/09/2005 5:33:27 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Howlin; txdoda

HR 1587


278 posted on 06/09/2005 5:40:10 AM PDT by Klickitat
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Are we to expect that instead of "guest worker program" he has ginned up some other euphemism for amnesty?


279 posted on 06/09/2005 5:42:03 AM PDT by reelfoot
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To: Happy2BMe

You are 100% correct.


280 posted on 06/09/2005 5:51:59 AM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Why are other nations needs given priority status over our own nation's needs?)
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