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KING VOTES TO PROTECT AMERICAN FLAG [House Judiciary passed Amendment banning desecration]
Congressman Steve King ^ | May 27, 2005 | Rep. Steve King (R-IA)

Posted on 06/08/2005 11:26:52 AM PDT by newgeezer

KING VOTES TO PROTECT AMERICAN FLAG
Americans’ Duty to Protect Symbol of Freedom

Washington, D.C. — Leading up to Memorial Day, with the support of Iowa Congressman Steve King, the House Judiciary Committee passed a Constitutional amendment that would allow Congress to make it a crime to burn the American flag.

Although almost eighty percent of Americans support a Constitutional amendment banning desecration of the American flag, in 1989 and 1990 the Supreme Court ruled that laws passed by Congress violated the First Amendment. Passing a constitutional amendment is the only way to protect the American flag from acts of desecration.

“Our Founding Fathers would have never imagined the need for an amendment to the Constitution like this,” said King. “They fought so hard to be able to display the American flag, and they did so proudly. This Memorial Day weekend, we must remember all of those who fought for our country and this flag. It’s not just patriotic to want to protect this flag, but our duty as Americans.”

“This flag has led the way into battle, been planted on the moon and draped the coffins of Americans who have sacrificed their lives for our county. It was raised at Iwo Jima and in the debris at Ground Zero. It is the symbol of freedom to everyone in the world,” added King.

H.J. Res. 10, the Flag Protection Amendment, will need to be passed by two-thirds of the full House and Senate and be ratified by three-fourths of the states to become law. The amendment has been passed by the House with more than the two-thirds majority needed in the past five Congresses. In addition, all 50 state legislatures have petitioned Congress to approve a flag protection amendment and send it to them for ratification. The amendment has been considered in the Senate twice in the last five Congresses, and both times it failed to garner the two-thirds majority needed.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 109th; amendment; constitution; desecration; flag; flagamendment; flagburning; flagdesecration; hjres10
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To: EternalVigilance
An open admission you're trolling?

If you consider my looking for anyone to present a persuasive argument for the other side to be the equivalent of "trolling" then, sure. Guilty as charged.

21 posted on 06/08/2005 11:52:46 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: newgeezer
Our nation is strong enough and good enough to weather any assault on its symbols. Throughout our history and into the foreseeable future, those who desecrate our flag only reveal themselves for what they are.

I second your opinion. Allow the fools that hold this nation in low regard to light a beacon to themselves (as long as it's their flag) so that we may know them. Old Glory is the symbol of an idea. An idea that cannot be burned.

22 posted on 06/08/2005 11:56:03 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: newgeezer

That's what I thought.

Here's my opinion:

Those who burn the American flag as a sign of disrespect towards America, or as some kind of 'protest', are pond-scum-sucking *ssholes who don't deserve a single one of the liberties that Old Glory signifies.

And it's my Constitutional right to think and say so...


23 posted on 06/08/2005 12:01:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The gift of life: The first gift. The right to life: The first right. Fight for life and liberty!!!)
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To: newgeezer

I can't express how pleased I am that the vast majority of posters on this thread stand on the side of freedom.


24 posted on 06/08/2005 12:02:14 PM PDT by lugsoul
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To: newgeezer

I'm all for an Amendment prohibiting desecrating the flag. However, the attempts congress made in the past to ban the practice, truly were constitutionally obscene.


25 posted on 06/08/2005 12:04:48 PM PDT by Melas (Lives in state of disbelief)
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And if someone was to vandalize the Lincoln Memorial in the name of free speech?


26 posted on 06/08/2005 12:06:55 PM PDT by RedTail
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To: RedTail
And if someone was to vandalize the Lincoln Memorial in the name of free speech?

If that person holds the deed to it, I have no problem with his doing whatever he wants with it.

27 posted on 06/08/2005 12:13:25 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: newgeezer
Say it Louder.

Flag-burning is political speech.


28 posted on 06/08/2005 12:17:59 PM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: EternalVigilance
Those who burn the American flag as a sign of disrespect towards America, or as some kind of 'protest', are pond-scum-sucking *ssholes

Now Lets try an experiment.

Substitution.

Those who burn the American German flag as a sign of disrespect towards America the Fatherland , or as some kind of 'protest', are pond-scum-sucking *ssholes...

Maybe now you can see the difference. You dont have to like it, but we are who we are because we tolerate that manner of dissent.

29 posted on 06/08/2005 12:21:13 PM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: EternalVigilance
Those who burn the American flag as a sign of disrespect towards America, or as some kind of 'protest', are pond-scum-sucking *ssholes who don't deserve a single one of the liberties that Old Glory signifies.

Except for the part about whether they deserve their Constitutional rights, I agree.

One of the great things about our nation is that, because we're right, we can let people be wrong. No matter how thoroughly wrong they are, it doesn't change the fact that we're right.

That's freedom. That's liberty.

And it's my Constitutional right to think and say so...

Of course it is. That goes without saying. So, I can only wonder why you thought it needed to be said.

30 posted on 06/08/2005 12:21:44 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: newgeezer

Geez, let's desecrate what the flag symbolized, to protect the symbol...

Hey Rep King, howzabout you work on fixing some of the real ills in this country, then you can waste time on this stuff when the job we're paying you to do is finished.


31 posted on 06/08/2005 12:26:42 PM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: hobbes1

You can't see the difference between the Stars and Stripes and the Nazi swastika, or differentiate between what the two banners stand for?

Amazing.


32 posted on 06/08/2005 12:36:46 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The gift of life: The first gift. The right to life: The first right. Fight for life and liberty!!!)
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To: Lord_Baltar
Hey Rep King, howzabout you work on fixing some of the real ills in this country, then you can waste time on this stuff when the job we're paying you to do is finished.

Then support his constitutional amendment to repeal the 16th amendment.

33 posted on 06/08/2005 12:38:41 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The gift of life: The first gift. The right to life: The first right. Fight for life and liberty!!!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Flags are pieces of Cloth. It is the Ideals they represent that differentiates them.


Apparently it is you that is unable to make the differentiation......


34 posted on 06/08/2005 12:40:15 PM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: hobbes1
Flag-burning is political speech for lowlifes.

There, that's better.

35 posted on 06/08/2005 12:41:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The gift of life: The first gift. The right to life: The first right. Fight for life and liberty!!!)
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To: EternalVigilance

That is true. However, it is their Right.


And precisely because it is their RIGHT, we are who we are.


36 posted on 06/08/2005 12:42:16 PM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: T.Smith
In addition, all 50 state legislatures have petitioned Congress to approve a flag protection amendment and send it to them for ratification.

Hmm, really? I did not know that.

37 posted on 06/08/2005 12:42:20 PM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: hobbes1
Apparently it is you that is unable to make the differentiation......

Apparently it is you who is unable to read and comprehend my posts.

38 posted on 06/08/2005 12:45:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The gift of life: The first gift. The right to life: The first right. Fight for life and liberty!!!)
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To: hobbes1
And precisely because it is their RIGHT, we are who we are.

Sorry. The actions of scumsucking America-haters doesn't affect who I am in the least.

39 posted on 06/08/2005 12:48:15 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The gift of life: The first gift. The right to life: The first right. Fight for life and liberty!!!)
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To: newgeezer

U.S. Muslims desecrate American flag

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1419017/posts


So, are these folks simply 'exercising free speech', or would you consider them a threat to the realities behind the symbol?

Personally, I'd trust a Leftist flag-burner just about exactly as far as I'd trust these jihadis...


40 posted on 06/08/2005 12:54:51 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The gift of life: The first gift. The right to life: The first right. Fight for life and liberty!!!)
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