Posted on 06/08/2005 7:58:25 AM PDT by worldclass
I came to believe beyond any reasonable doubt that Nixon did not lie or direct a cover-up, and that if he had gone to trial in the Senate, he would have survived. Why did he then resign? Because he knew a Senate trial would take a year of the nation’s energy at a time when our economy was falling apart underneath him and we were at a point in the Cold War in which the Soviet Union seemed to be winning.
(Excerpt) Read more at wanniski.com ...
We'd have to go back over the tapes, but I suspect that Nixon did that, and maybe something more, steering his people in what he thought was the right direction and making sure that they knew what was important and did it. Probably it was all enough to get proceedings started that would have tied up the Presidency for the rest of his administration. In that context, saying that impeachment would eventually have lost in the Senate is saying little. So much dirty laundry would have been aired that Nixon would have had to resign, and Congressmen and Senators would have felt compelled to vote against him.
Wanniski gives an intriguing spin to references to the "Cuban thing" and "Bay of Pigs." Oliver Stone apparently believes as much -- that Nixon thought some secret about the Kennedys was involved. But Cuban-Americans and at least one former CIA man were arrested at Watergate. The "Cuban thing" and "Bay of Pigs" may have been Nixon's way of referring to the Watergate affair or a code word for some detail of that operation. I don't know, but it looks like such references could well have had less significance than Wanniski wants to give them.
"Jude explains the tapes and why he thinks they have been misused by Nixon's opponents."
Yeah. I also noticed that in the article, he says this statement: "The "Cuban thing," as Nixon called it," referring to the "smoking gun" tape. A transcript of the recording:
okay -that's fine. Now, on the investigation,
you know, the Democratic break-in
thing, we're back to the-in the, the problem
area because the FBI is not under control,
because Gray doesn't exactly know how to
control them, and they have, their
investigation is now leading into some
productive areas, because they've been able
to trace the money, not through the money
itself, but through the bank, you know,
sources - the banker himself. And, and it
goes in some directions we don't want it to
go. Ah, also there have been some things,
like an informant came in off the street to
the FBI in Miami, who was a photographer or
has a friend who is a photographer who
developed some films through this guy,
Barker, and the films had pictures of
Democratic National Committee letter head
documents and things. So I guess, so it's
things like that that are gonna, that are
filtering in. Mitchell came up with
yesterday, and John Dean analyzed very
carefully last night and concludes, concurs
now with Mitchell's recommendation that the
only way to solve this, and we're set up
beautifully to do it, ah, in that and
that...the only network that paid any
attention to it last night was NBC...they
did a massive story on the Cuban...
PRESIDENT: That's right.
HALDEMAN: thing.
PRESIDENT: Right.
HALDEMAN: That the way to handle this now is for us to
have Walters call Pat Gray and just say,
"Stay the hell out of this...this is ah,
business here we don't want you to go any
further on it." That's not an unusual
development,...
PRESIDENT: Um huh.
The President doesn't say "the Cuban thing," Hadleman does. Funny mistake for a person who claims to have "read the transcripts over for the tenth or 15th time[s]." If he is that sloppy with misattributing quotes, what else is he sloppy in?
Moreover, it took him 15 times of listening to the tapes to come up with this explanation? Sounds like he's looking for an excuse to me. Occam's Razor, folks.
Finally, the Nixon's handling of the subpoena and the Saturday Night Massacre did him in for me. No respect of the constitutional process.
If memory serves me right, Nixon was not guilty of anything to do with the break-in. What he was guilty of is the cover up to protect some of his Administration. This hero whistle blower was a jacka@@ for not using the proper chain of command to report his information. This hero was a coward, for the mark of a coward is his hiding the fact that he gave information to a couple of jacka@@ reporters. The reporters were by far not, by any stretch of imagination, hero's also. They did not verify their information, but just ran with it. Bad reporting.
That happened for a reason, to drive a wedge between China and russia,..an important wedge,... Reagan finished the job that Nixon started...
Do we have proof that Felt is Deep Throat? It is my understanding that he is barely sentient these days.
I meant to the world at large; I was not trying to put words in your mouth. Sorry if that is what you thought I meant.
Well the moderate nobles of the middle of the road in the Republican Party had no backbone to stand against the onslaught of the lying liberal leftist. Nixon was appraised of their minds and spines of mush and he gracefully left them to their own devices.
Maybe Edward Cox will beat the heck out of Hitlery. That would be interesting. But, do we really know who he is? I am really tired of our elite politicians. We should really elect our own choosing; not some lobbiest or other.
Amen to that, anyway! Not to mention, Nixon vs. JFK, or, in "modern" times, say Lott vs. Byrd re: KKK connections or whatever...
Interesting discussion here...there certainly have been many attempts to "resurrect" the "glory days" of the so-called "peace marches", and now we have all this BS about "Woodstein" and the "glory days" of so-called "investigative reporting"...
All I can say is, give me a break!! Whatever ethical lapses Nixon did indeed commit, I doubt they would "rise to the level" these days, and it's too bad there was no "alternative media" back then to vet the Post's "ace reporters"; they certainly did a great job of managing their "information", didn't they?!
And while I'm at it...it was NOT "Nixon's war"!!! and if one more peace-nik calls up C-Span to suggest anyone who voted for President Bush should send their sons and daughters down to the recruiter's office, I am going to scream!!! It's a VOLUNTEER army!!! No one is drafted!!! So shut up and move on to something productive!
/ rant...
(I feel better now...LOL!)
A traiter, Felt, to the US should not benefit from his crimes.
No argument from me, but you can tell by looking at the guy's eyes that his brain died a long time ago. I mean that literally.
The whole reason this came out now is because he is about to croak.
A secondary reason might be to provide cover for the other traitors who leaked info to Woodward. I believe that "Deep Throat" was a composite of several high-ranking federal scumbags. Some of the info that Deep Throat supposedly provided would not have been available to Felt.
I'm not interested in Democrats or Republicans, or who is more to blame. My comment was on Nixon.
Chicago and Philadelphia. The more things change, the more they stay the same I suppose. It would appear after the last election that Philly has surpassed Chi town as the most corrupt. Philly: Population goes down, registered voters go up. The count is 70% to 30% for Kerry. I would say that is prima facie evidence of fraud and corruption. But where was the outrage from the RNC?
read during lunch BUMP!
Only that Woodward and Bernstein corroborate that he was. Woodward being the only one that would know with absolute certainty.
You're right on the Bernstein family: Bernstein's father was the lawyer for a Communist-infiltrated labor union, and took the Fifth when called before SISS. On Woodward, his future first wife, Kathleen Middlekauff, was with SDS at a time when Woodward was in the Navy on an assignment with top secret security clearance (making one wonder why he passed his background check), though Woodward reportedly didn't share her political views at that time. I haven't heard anything about his second wife being with SDS.
Thanks for correcting the record, it was Woodward's first wife (not second) who I had heard was in SDS. That really does make me wonder how he passed a background investigation for a high security clearance.
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