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In S.F., Dean calls GOP 'a white Christian party'
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 6/7/5 | Carla Marinucci

Posted on 06/07/2005 4:11:16 PM PDT by SmithL

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To: WOSG
I seem to recall that some idiot Republican in 1876 called the Democrats the party of "Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion"; that put-down managed to lock the Irish Catholic, urban immigrants, and Southern voters in to the Democrat party for another 100 years.

That would be James G. Blaine, the continental liar from the state of Maine.

341 posted on 06/08/2005 12:50:01 AM PDT by Schwaeky ("Truth is not determined by Majority vote"-- Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: SmithL

It's hard to believe anyone is still listening to this baboons arse.


342 posted on 06/08/2005 1:14:06 AM PDT by jb6 ( Free Hagia Sophia! Crusade!)
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To: redgolum

We have high school football games that regularly fill the stands with more black folks than live in Vermont.


343 posted on 06/08/2005 2:46:11 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Mexico, the 51st state.)
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To: TheDon

"Hillary needs him there to make herself appear to be the moderate."

Maybe that's the plan?


344 posted on 06/08/2005 2:47:34 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Mexico, the 51st state.)
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To: Theresawithanh
I often wonder if Dean's appointment is all a setup?

Nobody could be that stupid ( well almost nobody) to make such insipid remarks.

Will he be replaced by Hillary, once or if she gets the nomination, so as to appear more moderate?

You can almost see it coming.

345 posted on 06/08/2005 3:59:36 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Habemus Papum)
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To: alnick
So is he saying the democrats are the ethnic athiest party? He has no tolerance for white Christians?

Multi cultural party of Peace and Love

346 posted on 06/08/2005 4:08:57 AM PDT by kempster
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To: SmithL; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
"This is one of those flaps that comes up once in awhile when I get tough," Dean said. "We have to be rough on the Republicans. Republicans don't represent ordinary Americans and they don't have any understanding of what it is to go out and try and make ends meet."

This man is delusional!!!

AUDIO HERE

347 posted on 06/08/2005 4:31:45 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: rdb3

heheh LOL


348 posted on 06/08/2005 4:34:03 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (10,000 posts by 29 June!!!)
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To: SmithL
Last I checked, most of the country is still white and Christian.

BTW, Howie, I'm a Dem and I vote Pubbie. And I'm not the only one :)

349 posted on 06/08/2005 4:35:08 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: OXENinFLA

Bump for later.


350 posted on 06/08/2005 4:35:17 AM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: OXENinFLA
This man is delusional!!!

Howie is trying to play the class warfare act

Howie may have been born with a sivler spoon in his mouth .. but he sure wasn't born with any brains

351 posted on 06/08/2005 4:40:07 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: Northern Yankee
Will he be replaced by Hillary, once or if she gets the nomination, so as to appear more moderate?

Harold Ickes

352 posted on 06/08/2005 4:41:56 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: OXENinFLA
"This is one of those flaps that comes up once in awhile when I get tough,"
Dean said. "We have to be rough on the Republicans.


this is very funny stuff
353 posted on 06/08/2005 4:42:10 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: SmithL

I think this indicates Dean's frustration at not being able to penetrate the red states. I think he was doing much better years back with his "vibes" movement.


354 posted on 06/08/2005 4:44:24 AM PDT by Alia
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To: SJackson
Probably not the thread to discuss in on, but this is a sick and potentially dangerous man. His demonization of his political opponents is reminiscent of the tyrants of the last century. The next step is to disenfranchise the white Christians

You are right. Right now, orthodox Christians are first on the list. The only question is who is next.

355 posted on 06/08/2005 5:12:26 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: OXENinFLA
This man is delusional!!!

How dare he!  He is the biggest a$$hole in the DemocRAT party.

How dare he diss me and all of us in the way that he did.

And he thinks he is so perfect????   He disgusts me!


356 posted on 06/08/2005 5:21:53 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SJackson

"this is a sick and potentially dangerous man. His demonization of his political opponents is reminiscent of the tyrants of the last century. The next step is to disenfranchise the white Christians."


''Speaking Lies in Hypocrisy''

Commentary on the News
Monday, June 06, 2005
Jack Kinsella - Omega Letter Editor
The President of Blue State America launched another salvo at his arch-enemy, the citizens of Red State America, during a speech to an organization called, chillingly enough, "Campaign for America's Future."


Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean received enthusiastic applause for his plan to ease voting restrictions, saying it is difficult for working parents to make it to the polls on time. But he got his biggest round of applause for his comment:

"Well, Republicans, I guess, can do that, because a lot of them have never made an honest living in their lives." Hear that, Red State America? If you are a Republican, you are probably dishonest, and if you aren't living in a tarpaper shack, then you are most likely a thief.

In the 1920's, Adolph Hitler said almost exactly the same thing about Jews while he was gathering forces to his side for Germany's civil war, using tactics suspiciously familiar to those of Dr. Dean.

Before I start getting letters from people claiming I am comparing Dean to Hitler, I am not. Hitler was a singular evil with no historical equivalent. He stands alone, a sneak preview of the coming antichrist. There is no equivalent between Dr. Dean and the German mass murderer.

But Hitler is the acknowledged master architect of the art of propaganda. Using the same kind of 'over the top' characterizations Dr. Dean is so fond of, Hitler played on the prejudices of the extreme, portraying his cause as something higher and more noble than the 'politics as usual' that he claimed led to Germany's recent defeat by the Allies in the First World War.

Hitler pioneered the science of the "Big Lie" -- a propaganda technique defined by Nazi Propaganda Minister Josef Goebbels as, "repeating a lie, whether big or small, and repeating it so often that it becomes accepted as truth."

Hitler described the Big Lie Principle and how it works on the masses in his 1925 autobiography, 'Mein Kampf';

". . . in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously."

For example, the newly-resurrected "Bush Lied" story is being circulated by another disciple of the Big Lie Principle, failed candidate John Kerry.

Kerry said last week that he had 'uncovered' a document that he claims is evidence Bush cooked the intelligence to make a case for war. According to Kerry, the document is so damning that Kerry believes it makes a case for his impeachment.

It is at this point that one has to step back and consider the claim that Bush lied from the perspective of the Big Lie principle.

To lie, you have to KNOW the truth. How could Bush know? It isn't like he has a lot of free time on his hands to check things out for himself.

The first question isn't WHETHER he lied -- we can't get to that one until after we answer the question; how could it even be possible? How could Bush know what nobody else did?

It is such a colossal lie that, to quote der Fuehrer, "It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously."

Especially since it is so obviously untrue.

Every single investigation conducted says the majority opinion of the world's intelligence agencies concurred that Saddam was developing WMD. He never denied it. Saddam even told his own generals that he had nuclear weapons, hoping one of them would leak it to the West.

And then there is this, single, obvious and seldom-discussed point. If Bush knew what none of the world's intelligence services knew, and even what none of Saddam's generals did, then WHO told him? All by itself, that one fact demolishes the 'Bush lied' argument. Bush could NOT know. NOBODY did except Saddam.

But here comes John Kerry, waving a memo that, to be believable, requires assuming the president has a secret spy service that told him the opposite of what the CIA did -- AND that the president had a way of knowing which advice was correct.

This is not a defense of the Bush administration. It is an example of how propaganda works. Every investigation has cleared the administration, saying the evidence available as of March 2003 supported the administration's conclusions.

Not one investigation has been willing to hazard a guess as to how the most insulated human being on the face of the planet could have personal, contradictory knowledge of what was going on inside one of the world's most repressive dictatorships. Are you still with me?

Let's go back to der Fuehrer's explanation of why the Big Lie works, even AFTER it has been exposed by contradictory evidence.

"Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. " (Mein Kampf, Murphy translation, p. 134)

That Dr. Dean will lie if necessary is something he has openly, even cheerfully admitted during his presidential campaign, telling a reporter in a fit of pique, "I've waffled before. I'll waffle again."

Another insight into the mind of Dr. Dean comes from his response to a reporter's question about Dean's angry temperament;

"People have said I'm the candidate of anger. Well, we have a right to be angry. We lost 3 million jobs. We lost our place as the moral leader of the world."

America may have 'lost' 3 million jobs on paper, but according to the Bureau of Labor, America found them again. Unemployment is at 5.1%, lower than at any time during the 1990's. A Big Lie surrounded by a veneer of truth.

As to America losing its place as the 'moral leader of the world' -- once again, a lie camouflaged by a thin veneer of truth. In 1992, Bush Sr. lost the election largely based on the perception he broke a promise. Bush Sr. lost on the character issue -- to Bill Clinton.

By the conclusion of the Clinton administration, parents had to censor the news because the moral accusations against the president were too graphic for children.

Kids started asking there parents what 'oral sex' was, or worse, explaining away their own sexual misbehavior by citing the president's assertion that it wasn't really sex.

Anybody who spoke out in favor of moral absolutes in America was labeled a 'member of the right wing conspiracy' -- effectively marginalizing them as extremists.

America had lost its moral place in the world long before Bush came to office.

But if one repeats a lie often enough, pretty soon it becomes the truth. The Koran-flushing episode comes to mind as another recent example of the Big Lie principle in action.

I've yet to meet anybody who can flush one page from a book down their toilet. Newsweek has since retracted the story. But to millions of Americans, (including Newsweek and most of the liberal press) it is merely unproven -- that doesn't mean it isn't true.

Hitler's platform during the 1920's was that there were two Germanys -- one for the wealthy and the Jews, and another for the working poor.

Hitler openly acknowledged that the Nazi party was "socialist" and that its enemies were the "bourgeoisie" and the "plutocrats" (the rich). Hitler regarded capitalism as an evil scheme of the Jews and said so in speech after speech.

Speaking at the same podium as Dr. Dean on the day Dean said 'most Republicans never earned an honest living in their lives' was North Carolina Democrat and failed VP candidate John Edwards.

After receiving "Take Back America's" most prestigious award, named for patriot Thomas Paine, he reminded the audience of his campaign theme that there are 'Two Americas' -- one for the rich and the other for 'everyone else'. (The 'rich' are the Republicans, in case you missed the inference.)

Edwards explained his 'Two Americas' this way: "One America that does the work, another America that reaps the reward. One America that pays the taxes, another America that gets the tax breaks. One America that will do anything to leave its children a better life, another America that never has to do a thing because its children are already set for life."

Sound familiar? Edwards' "Two-Americas' theme isn't new. It had been previously articulated by the Trotskyite American Socialist Worker's Party during the ASW's 1948 keynote address:

"For there are two Americas — and millions of the people already distinguish between them.

One is the America of the imperialists — of the little clique of capitalists, landlords, and militarists who are threatening and terrifying the world. This is the America the people of the world hate and fear.

There is the other America — the America of the workers and farmers and the “little people”. They constitute the great majority of the people. They do the work of the country. They revere its old democratic traditions — its old record of friendship for the people of other lands, in their struggles against kings and despots— its generous asylum once freely granted to the oppressed.

This is the America which must and will solve the world crisis — by taking power out of the hands of the little clique of exploiters and parasites. . ."

That is what Blue State America has in mind for Red State America, 'taking power out of the hands of the little clique of exploiters and parasites' -- you know, Republicans.

It should be fairly obvious to any honest observer that propaganda works, and it would be untrue to say that it isn't employed to some degree by both sides.

But Dr. Dean's brand of propaganda isn't aimed at politicians or party, it is aimed at America itself. His obsession with destroying the Republicans ("I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for." NYDaily News Jan 30, 2005) is shared by those who elected him.

To that end, they have shown a willingness to exacerbate the Red State/Blue State divide, propagate any lie, no matter how outrageous, submit the United States to any embarrassment, (our president is illegitimate, our troops immoral, our detention facilities a 'gulag') -- if it will restore them to power.

Howard Dean is quoted, saying of 'Two-State America' "This is a struggle of good and evil. And we're the good."

A quick look at the 'good' Democratic platform; abortion on demand, gay rights, oppose school prayer, oppose the display of Christian symbols, oppose the use or display of the Bible, and -- if Howard Dean is to be taken seriously -- hatred for the 'evil' Republicans for not sharing that worldview.

Democrats embrace NARAL, NOW, the ACLU, the environmental movement and even lunatic fringe groups like the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals [PETA], who advocate animal rights and view killing animals for food as 'murder'.

It is the same old 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' principle that, at one time, had Howard Dean siding with Saddam Hussein.

"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats. . . " (1st Timothy 4:1-3) Let's see. . . did Paul miss anything?

The point isn't, "Democrats bad, Republicans good" -- although there are some that will read that into this report and miss the Big Picture.

Forget partisanship for a minute and step back to where you can see the whole thing. Note that deception is the hallmark of last days' society. America has the most open, most transparent, and most lawful government the world has ever known.

But half the country believes the White House is occupied by a mythical figure capable of extraordinary feats of telepathy and granted the gift of infallible knowledge when it comes to Iraq. But somehow, the rest of the time, they believe it is occupied by a bumbling moron who can barely string a sentence together -- and what's worse, can't pronounce 'nuclear' properly.

And they believe both characterizations describe the same man.

Consider the power of that propaganda machine, and consider the power it would afford one who held absolute control of it, the way that Hitler or Stalin did.

For the America of a generation ago, the idea that the American public could be convinced to worship a leader such as the one described by Revelation 13 seem ludicrous. The America of a generation ago would see through his lies almost immediately.

This generation is apparently prepared to believe anything.

From the Omega Letter Daily Intelligence Digest, Volume 45, Issue 3



357 posted on 06/08/2005 5:29:02 AM PDT by Esther Ruth
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To: mhking; rdb3

All right guys, 'fess up. Show us the tan lines!

Not too much though, OK Mike? I don't want to see that full moon over Georgia . . .


358 posted on 06/08/2005 6:12:13 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: Justanobody
... but Brit Hume is a Power Line reader... What...he doesn't read FreeRepublic???

It wouldn't surprise me. Anyway, since it all starts here he's a defacto reader. ;-)

359 posted on 06/08/2005 6:13:32 AM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: WOSG

Yeah, I was trying to say the non-Hispanic white vote. You're correct that saying "Anglo" should be sufficient, but since some people may define "Anglo" as "non-Hispanic" (which would thus include blacks, Asians, etc.), I used white Anglo to be on the safe side.


360 posted on 06/08/2005 6:26:13 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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