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Carter: Close down Guantanamo
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Posted on 06/07/2005 1:41:51 PM PDT by Blue Turtle

ATLANTA - Former President Jimmy Carter on Tuesday called for the United States to shut down its Guantanamo Bay prison to demonstrate the country's commitment to protecting human rights.

"Despite President George W. Bush's bold reminder that America is determined to promote freedom and democracy around the world, the U.S. continues to suffer terrible embarrassment and a blow to our reputation as a champion of human rights because of reports concerning abuses of prisoners in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Guantanamo," Carter said in a news conference following the close of a two-day human rights conference at his Atlanta center.

In addition to closing Guantanamo Bay and two dozen other secret detention facilities, the former president said the United States needs to make sure no detainees are held incommunicado and that they all be told the charges against them.

His other recommendations included that the United States stop transferring detainees to foreign countries where torture has been reported and that an independent commission be created to investigate where terrorism suspects are held in U.S. custody.

Carter also said the United States should reaffirm its commitment to due process and international law, and assure that the Geneva Conventions on the treatment of prisoners are enforced.

Carter said many countries, including the United States, are using the campaign against terrorism as an excuse to restrict freedoms and silence human rights activists.

"In fact, combating terrorism, defending human rights and ensuring our collective security go hand in hand," Carter said.

The former president also pointed out abuses in other countries, including:

_ In Indonesia, efforts to reform the state intelligence body are being resisted in the name of safeguarding security.

_In conflict zones such as Chechnya and Colombia, crimes against humanity, and the targeting of human rights activists, are justified as counterterrorism.

_Persistent poverty contributes to insecurity and violence in countries such as Kenya, Nigeria, and Uzbekistan.

A delegation of human rights defenders from around the world will be in Washington on Wednesday to present their testimony to key leaders of the U.S. government.

Despite his criticism of the Guantanamo Bay prison, Carter said Amnesty International should not have called it "the gulag of our time" when the describing the facility in a report last month.

Calling it "an ill-advised term," Carter said the abuses said to take place at Guantanamo Bay could never compare with the Soviet-era gulags, where thousands of people died.

"I think it's unfortunate that their choice of words has become the focal point of the debate," Carter said.


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KEYWORDS: apathy; gaslines; hostages; killerrabbit; malaise; miseryindex; nkoreanukes; thermostat; worstpresidentever
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To: DuncanWaring

"They're not "Prisoners of War". They're "Illegal combatants".
Under the Laws of Land Warfare, they can legally be summarily executed."


I stand corrected. Excellent, let's go to work then.


101 posted on 06/07/2005 2:48:08 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.)
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To: Blue Turtle

102 posted on 06/07/2005 2:48:23 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("I'm not very dignified." - Howard Dean)
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To: blueblazes
Either try 'em and execute 'em, or ship them back to their third world hell holes. There's no point in just keeping these guys perpetual prisoners without trials. We wouldn't like it if somebody did it to us. Gitmo just makes the US look bad in the eyes of the world for no reason, it serves no purpose

This has nothing to do with trials or courts or anything of a civilian, legalistic nature. They are POW's. How many German POW's did we release before 5/8/1945?

103 posted on 06/07/2005 2:50:07 PM PDT by Zhangliqun (What are intellectuals for but to complexify the obvious?)
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To: Mikey_1962

"I Thank God this man is not President!"

This man was Puppet President - David Rockefeller pulled the strings. David had free access to both the Carter White House and the Krushchev Kremlin.


104 posted on 06/07/2005 2:53:53 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Blue Turtle

STFU, jimmy.

Freaking Idiot..


105 posted on 06/07/2005 2:55:03 PM PDT by fhlh (.)
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To: blueblazes

You're half-right. We can only kill them.

Turn these guys loose and they are right back in the game killing the good guys. Turning them loose is not an option.


106 posted on 06/07/2005 2:55:05 PM PDT by get'emall (Howard Dean is nuts.)
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To: river rat

Roger that. You'll get zero argument on me of your comments.


107 posted on 06/07/2005 2:57:32 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Two books, the Koran and Mein Kampf, advocate violence, murder and hate!)
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To: fhlh
Hey, Jimmy


108 posted on 06/07/2005 3:01:31 PM PDT by andyandval (Try flushing a book down the toilet....get back to me on how you did)
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To: Blue Turtle

The only thing that needs to be closed is Jimmy Carter's pie hole.


109 posted on 06/07/2005 3:07:08 PM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: blueblazes
Wrong website, putz.

Why don't we house the terrorists in your basement and we'll see how fast you'll change your opinon.

110 posted on 06/07/2005 3:08:11 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Dog
Well, I see Mr. Peanut is spouting off again. Let's review the stellar events of his presidency:

Giving the Panama Canal away, and it is now run by the Chinese.
Stabbing the Shah in the back, giving us the mullahs of Iran, the hostage crisis, and subsequently the war on terror.
Mortgage interest rates of 18% or more, hence a stagnant housing market.
Gas lines.
All thermostats turned up in summer and down in winter.
No Christmas lights.
Amy Carter, Miss Lillian, and Billy.
Roselyn always looking like Miss Prunes and Prisms, sitting in on cabinet meetings.
Bert Lance
Killer rabbit
That dreadful "mailaise" speech, blaming US for having a bad attitude!
Pardoning all the draft dodgers, so they could come home and act like they were heroes, vote, and get university professorships.
Carter carrying his own bags (which we later discovered were empty).
Carter's shock that the Russians invaded Afghanistan, and his big retaliation was NO OLYMPICS.

The Carter Presidency was like dog years; each year seemed like seven.

111 posted on 06/07/2005 3:08:50 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Blue Turtle
Maybe we should have a take no prisoners policy with terrorist (once we have gotten all of the information out of them). Gitmo problem solved.

Remember that terrorists don't comply with any rules of war. So we are not obligated to do the same with them. If they kidnap one of our people or soldiers they behead them. Why then should we extend them any civility?
112 posted on 06/07/2005 3:22:04 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Blue Turtle

I think Jimmah did enough by allowing the Islamofascist take over Iran. So STFU.


113 posted on 06/07/2005 3:45:09 PM PDT by marty60
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To: Blue Turtle
Carters Resign Top Posts at Carter Center
114 posted on 06/07/2005 3:49:21 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Blue Turtle

Dear Democrats: Just shut it! We don't need your advice on Guantanamo. If you think the issue has traction, it does: with the liberals who already vote Democrat in every election.


115 posted on 06/07/2005 3:52:24 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Sprite518
Way to go Jimmy! How in the heck did you ever make it through the Naval Academy is beyond me?

Affirmative Action for Idiots Week?

Regards,
GtG

116 posted on 06/07/2005 4:08:40 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, but I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Miss Marple
Question: How does one go about getting a US nuclear sub RENAMED?
117 posted on 06/07/2005 4:24:44 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: Plutarch

You're right. Gitmo is most likely by far the most humane prison in all of Cuba. Heck, those prisoners probably have better living conditions than most Cubans.


118 posted on 06/07/2005 4:50:14 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: Zhangliqun
They are POW's.

They're not Prisoners of War.

They're Illegal Combatants, subject, under the internationally-agreed laws of land warfare, to summary execution.

119 posted on 06/07/2005 5:47:58 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: 68skylark

No problemo :)

I just don't see the point to holding them. They're like a constant source of irritation with their whining about their Korans and stupid crap like that. Mike Savage was reading from the DoD instructions for how to handle a Koran for a POW. "like a delicate work of art" or some crap like that. Either they're guilty, in which case they should be executed, or they're innocent, in which case we shouldn't be holding them. It's like a lot of other things with our government - we don't seem to be able to take real action that means something.


120 posted on 06/07/2005 8:26:07 PM PDT by blueblazes
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