In addition, Irvine and Huntington Beach ranked in the top 20 safest big cities on a separate listing of property crimes.
The analysis showed about 82 violent crimes for every 100,000 residents in Irvine.
By contrast, St. Louis ranked as the nation's most dangerous city, with 2,207 violent crimes per 100,000 people.
"Irvine is a very nice city. It's a master-planned city; there's good governance at all levels," said Irvine Police Department Lt. Jeff Love. "We've all worked together to try to create a safe community."
More at link
To: K4Harty
I would like to see a list of safety based on gun ownership and lib/'conservative governing units........
2 posted on
06/07/2005 10:19:47 AM PDT by
Red Badger
(It's not up to the gov't to give you an education. It's up to you to take it from them......)
To: K4Harty
1. Irvine, CA
2. Amherst, N.Y.
3. Cary, N.C.
4. Gilbert, Ariz.
5. Sunnyvale, CA
6. Thousand Oaks, CA
7. Glendale, CA
8. Provo, Utah
9. Bellevue, Wash.
10. Simi Valley, CA
3 posted on
06/07/2005 10:21:52 AM PDT by
So Cal Rocket
(Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
To: K4Harty
St. Louis metro has two very bad areas that distort the statistics. North and East St. Louis(actually in Illinois) are akin to third world countries in terms of crime, poverty, unemployment, welfare, etc.
St. Louis is also one of the most racially segregated cities in US. Guess where the bulk of the crime is.
6 posted on
06/07/2005 10:26:15 AM PDT by
Mulch
(tm)
To: K4Harty
"Irvine is a very nice city. It's a master-planned city; there's good governance at all levels," said Irvine Police Department Lt. Jeff Love. It's also a fairly expensive city with no ghettos (since it's relatively new). That helps. ;)
10 posted on
06/07/2005 10:28:55 AM PDT by
Mr. Jeeves
("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
To: K4Harty
The problem with these reports is that they don't delineate geographical areas into wards or suburbs where most of the crime takes place. Any large medium to large city has high crime ares. In St. Louis, parts of North city & South city are indeed dangerous. Downtown St. Louis ie. LaCledes Landing, Soulard, the Hill - to name a few, are as safe as any large city.St. Louis city & St. Louis County as a whole are very safe & a great place to raise a family.
12 posted on
06/07/2005 10:30:10 AM PDT by
Apercu
("Res ipsa loquitor")
To: K4Harty
Live in H.B. and work in Irvine.
20 posted on
06/07/2005 10:50:05 AM PDT by
TJC
To: K4Harty
irvine is a planned community with a long list of prohibitions:
there are no convenience stores. 7-11's etc have payphones and draw unsavory types. i can't remember seeing an auto parts store, altho' i may be wrong on this one.
you may not park your car overnight on the street, nor in your driveway. you must put your car in the garage and shut the door at all times.
you may not plant bushes nor trees that are not approved.
etc.
i have no issue with these prohibitions. if you don't like them, then don't move to irvine. however, about 10 years ago the los angeles times published a very negative review of irvine listing some of the things that i mentioned above.
33 posted on
06/07/2005 11:43:40 AM PDT by
ken21
(if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
To: K4Harty
I worked there for a time. They tend to sweep things far enough under the rug to skew the stats.
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