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To: dirtbiker
Your logic is convoluted.

I'm saying that the government says that one of the engines was vaporized by the fire. They also say that they found body parts and clothing.

The government story does not compute. It is flawed logic.

I use the government story to illustrate how bad the propoganda got on the 9/11 issue and how so many people have been duped by the propoganda machine that is the government.

You totaly misunderstand my point. I use their story to show that they lied on several points in regard to the pentagon strike along with the NYC twin tower strikes and the WTC building #7 takedown.

If you look into it, the airlines had massive speculation just prior to 9/11...stocks were being sold short....on a massive scale.

After 9/11...the airlines almost went broke. To this ay there are financial probems with the airlines due to 9/11.

And don't forget the VIP's that were warned not to fly on 9/11.

Lots of mis-information on both sides...but a lot of what is being said about a cover up seems to be true.

227 posted on 06/07/2005 7:40:50 AM PDT by Radioactive (I'm on the radio..so I'm radioactive)
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To: Radioactive
If you look into it, the airlines had massive speculation just prior to 9/11...stocks were being sold short....on a massive scale.

You are right... but again you don't tell the rest of the story. Exactly WHO profited? It was people who could reasonably know that certain stocks would be impacted negatively... people like Osama Bin Laden:

San Francisco Chronicle, 9/21/2001 - BIN LADEN'S FINANCES

. . . issued a report on Osama bin Laden's finances ("Black Tuesday: The World's Largest Insider Trading Scam?") saying insiders profited by nearly $16 million.

The money was made on Sept. 6, 7 and 10 in transactions involving United, American, Morgan Stanley Dean Witter & Co. and Merrill Lynch & Co., the center said. Morgan Stanley occupied 22 floors of the World Trade Center; Merrill Lynch's headquarters offices were nearby.

The figure excluded other unusual trades involving insurance companies with significant exposure to damage claims resulting from the attacks. These include Munich Re of Germany, which expects to pay out more than $1.5 billion, and the AXA Group, a French firm, which could be on the hook for $550 million.

A spokesman for the Securities and Exchange Commission declined to comment on a New York Times report yesterday that the SEC had found "benign" explanations for the trading activity.

I think it should be noted that your "massive" short selling was not massive. American Airlines had an increase of 500,000 shares sold short in the month preceding 9-11... but that was only an increase of 20% on the normal risk-takers short sales. To us, $!6 million is a lot of money... to traders at the level of shorting 500,000 shares, it's chicken feed.

Apparently, the potential profiteers were wealthy Arabs... hmmmmm... do you think we might have uncovered a conspiracy???? Yup.

231 posted on 06/07/2005 9:46:53 PM PDT by Swordmaker (tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: Radioactive

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm


232 posted on 06/07/2005 10:15:19 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Peace - that brief moment in history where everyone stands around reloading.)
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