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ACLU threatens talk-show hosts over cross - (Roger Hedgecock, Rick Roberts threatened)
WORLD NET DAILY.COM ^ | JUNE 3, 2005 | James L. Lambert

Posted on 06/03/2005 6:54:24 PM PDT by CHARLITE

The ACLU, representing an atheist, is threatening five San Diego-area personalities with legal action over the proposed wording of a ballot initiative that will determine the fate of a historic cross on city land.

The five behind the Mt. Soledad initiative are KFMB radio talk-show host Rick Roberts; KOGO radio talk-show host Roger Hedgecock; San Diego Padres radio announcer Jerry Coleman, Rep. Randy Cunningham, R-Calif.; and SoledadNational.com Director Phil Thalmeimer.

The attorney for atheist Philip Paulson, James McElroy, has told the men he will file the challenge next week.

McElroy claims that a number of their statements on the ballot, prepared for the July 26 city-wide vote, are "false and misleading."

Some statements at issue include, "as in the case with Mount Soledad, wherever veterans are honored with the symbols of the fallen, an intolerant few will launch frivolous lawsuits that waste our tax dollars … ."

Another statement under challenge is, "in 2004, the president of the United States signed legislation designating the Mount Soledad site as a 'National War Memorial,' necessitating the land transfer."

McElroy also objects to the sentence, "Vote Yes to transfer the land to the federal government and to permanently preserve Mount Soledad -- as it is where it is."

Last month, the San Diego City Council allowed voters to decide the fate of the historic cross, which overlooks the Pacific Ocean in nearby La Jolla. The legal battles date back to 1989.

Roberts said today he and the others "will defend the wording in court."

While there has been "a legal challenge against all five of us, I think we will prevail in court," he said.

Roberts stressed that the issue is important for those who want to preserve the heritage of San Diego, which includes the La Jolla cross. Donations for that cause are being taken by both radio announcers and SoledadNational.com.

Roberts also is a regular guest host for Michael Savage's nationally syndicated radio show. Hedgecock substitutes for Rush Limbaugh occasionally. Coleman will be inducted this summer in the Baseball Hall of Fame as a radio announcer.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aclu; announcer; antitheist; churchandstate; cross; cunningham; historic; jerrycoleman; kfmb; kogo; lawsuit; mountsoledad; mtsoledad; padres; purge; r; reprandy; rickroberts; roberhedgecock; sandiego; talkradio
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
Just thought I'd embellish a great idea with a good visual...

;-)

21 posted on 06/03/2005 7:29:08 PM PDT by NordP (Keeping America Great - Condi Rice/Lynne Cheney in 2008 !)
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To: EagleUSA

yup , so very BOLD , drives home how important the judiciary is!! And , it would be refreshing if W would let his guys handle "the dry toast SocSec" issue and use the Bully Pulpit , Hey Karl , c'mon Tiger!?!!??


22 posted on 06/03/2005 7:42:20 PM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: NordP

Yeah, and hold the rice.


23 posted on 06/03/2005 7:43:42 PM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy (Those who beat their swords into plow shears….will plow for those who don’t.)
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To: onyx

This issue was being debated the year I moved here...and the year I'm leaving it's still unresolved. How much more time needs to be wasted...how much more money needs to be wasted over this issue. What is wrong with these atheists. If they don't believe in God, WHY DO THEY CARE? I'm so fed up with this. I'm Jewish and I like the cross. Whose life is it going to effect? I don't get it.


24 posted on 06/03/2005 7:44:56 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: Dad yer funny

They mention San Diego Padres announcer Jerry Coleman. Years ago, didn't the Yankees have an announcer with that name, on WPIX channel 11? He was, I believe, an associate of Phil Rizzuto.


25 posted on 06/03/2005 7:45:51 PM PDT by rudy45
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To: Dr.Hilarious

>> The ACLU used to be a leftist group which was a valuable opposition to the government, which should ALWAYS be questioned and kept on its toes in terms of protecting the rights of the individual.

Nonsense. The ACLU has never been a valuable opposition to anyone except those who love liberty. You are a troll.


26 posted on 06/03/2005 7:50:32 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau ("The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork." -- Psalms 19:1)
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To: rudy45

If it is the same Jerry Coleman , he must getting on in years , no?


27 posted on 06/03/2005 7:55:04 PM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: CHARLITE
It's the damn Courts that support the ACLU. They would have no power if the Courts understood what separation of church and state means. Replace those buffoons in the Court and all will be well.
28 posted on 06/03/2005 7:55:08 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Txsleuth
and what are WE THE PEOPLE going to do about it?

If the history of the last 40 years is any guide to the next 40, not much of anything.

29 posted on 06/03/2005 8:02:18 PM PDT by epow ("Nothing doth more hurt in a state than that cunning men pass for wise.")
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To: PhilipFreneau

Yes, anyone who doesn't agree with you must be a troll. Thanks for your incredibly insightful commentary!


30 posted on 06/03/2005 8:03:02 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (If Al Qaeda took over the judiciary and mainstream media, would we know the difference?)
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To: Dr.Hilarious

>>>Yes, anyone who doesn't agree with you must be a troll.

Misdirection doesn't work on FR. You praised the work of the ACLU! Only a brain-dead leftist would praise the ACLU. You are a TROLL!


31 posted on 06/03/2005 8:09:05 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau ("The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork." -- Psalms 19:1)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Let them try. As long as I'm alive, they will NOT desecrate those gravesites or those of my relatives.


32 posted on 06/03/2005 8:14:20 PM PDT by MichiganCheese (If Hillary is the answer, it must be a stupid question.)
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To: Txsleuth

Damn! The detainee's are ahead 15-5. Our guys better get going. Flush & Plunge, Flush & Plunge!


33 posted on 06/03/2005 8:17:14 PM PDT by MichiganCheese (If Hillary is the answer, it must be a stupid question.)
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To: epow

Well, I read an article the other day that had an e-mail from Mrs. Bubba to her dems peons...

In the e-mail, among her blather, she accused the Republicans of trying to take US back to the 19th Century...

Well, I for one, think that if the REps could accomplish that, in some respects it might be just what we need...I wasn't around during the 19th Century, but I would bet that Americans were a lot more willing to "fight" for their rights and were probably a lot less "politically correct".

Therefore, I suggest we ask ourselves, "what would our patriot and pioneer forefathers do?" I doubt serisely that it would be to cower in inertia!


34 posted on 06/03/2005 8:18:03 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Noumenon

I want in on that.


35 posted on 06/03/2005 8:18:26 PM PDT by Marauder (Politicians use words the way a squid uses ink.)
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To: Marauder

I expect that you may have to take a number. The line's gonna be a little long.


36 posted on 06/03/2005 8:24:46 PM PDT by Noumenon (Activist judges - out of touch, out of tune, but not out of reach.)
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To: CHARLITE

These leftist screwball cockeyed atheists have nothing better to do except to make everyone else feel as miserable as they do. First Micheal Newdow, now this creep.


37 posted on 06/03/2005 8:30:00 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (A Democrat is a Democrat; Liberal a Liberal ; Tiger is a Tiger)
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To: MichiganCheese

I hope the toilets in Gitmo are better than the "no flush" ones our beloved government are forcing us to have in our homes....

THERE needs to be a law repealed---the law that makes the old-fashioned "one flush" toilets legal again!!!!

Write your congresscritters tonight--urgent, we want our American Standards back, the old-fashioned way!!!!


39 posted on 06/03/2005 8:32:56 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Txsleuth
BUT, they found 15 detainee incidents of desecrating the koran!!! 15!!!!!

Right and one detainee DID try to flush his Koran down the turlet.

40 posted on 06/03/2005 8:33:19 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (A Democrat is a Democrat; Liberal a Liberal ; Tiger is a Tiger)
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