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[Gitmo] Jailers Splashed Koran with Urine: Pentagon
Reuters Wire ^ | 6/3/05 7:25 Eastern

Posted on 06/03/2005 6:29:10 PM PDT by gopwinsin04

American jailers at the Guantanamo prison base for foreign terrorism suspects splashed a Koran with urine, kicked and stepped on the Islamic holy book and soaked it in water, the US Military said on Friday.

US Southern Command, responsible for the prision at the US Naval base at Guananamo bay, Cuba, described for the first time five cases of 'mishandling' of the Koran by US personnel confirmed by a newly completed military inquiry, said officials in a statement.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.myway.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gitmo; koran; korandesecration; newsweek
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To: Eagles6

When necessary, western democratic governments kill. Muslim governments have been advocating mass murder. This will not end until Islam undergoes its much needed reformation.


141 posted on 06/03/2005 8:46:56 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Delenda est Liberalism!)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Zactly.


142 posted on 06/03/2005 8:50:37 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: marty60

I just heard on Alan Colmes radio show that Kerry gave an interview "overseas" where he says he is going to ask for an inquiry into seeking an impeachment of President Bush for getting us into this "needless war"...

Yeah, the congress will be holding impeachment hearings while the terrorists are infiltrating our schools, hospitals, local political offices...and coming over our borders pretending to be Mexicans...

Fiddling while Rome burns.....


143 posted on 06/03/2005 8:54:17 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Bombardier
"Big deal.....my dog pees on the newspaper. Some things are just meant to be used for those purposes.....and the ignoble unholy Koran is one of them."

New york Times and the Koran have about the same mix of garbage, huh?
144 posted on 06/03/2005 8:54:39 PM PDT by ryan71 (Speak softly and carry a BIG STICK)
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To: gopwinsin04

Pigs love shredded paper for bedding, I can't think of a better use for this "book".


145 posted on 06/03/2005 8:54:57 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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To: Dr.Hilarious
1mor·al Pronunciation: 'mor-&l, 'mär- Function: adjective Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin moralis, from mor-, mos custom 1 a : of or relating to principles of right and wrong in behavior : ETHICAL b : expressing or teaching a conception of right behavior c : conforming to a standard of right behavior d : sanctioned by or operative on one's conscience or ethical judgment e : capable of right and wrong

equiv·a·lence Pronunciation: i-'kwiv-l&n(t)s, -'kwi-v&- Function: noun 1 a : the state or property of being equivalent b : the relation holding between two statements if they are either both true or both false so that to affirm one and to deny the other would result in a contradiction.

Moral equivalence Concept where one holds different or opposing beliefs system as true or equally ethical.

Yeah Doc, I know what it means and your it.

146 posted on 06/03/2005 9:02:36 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Dr.Hilarious

you"re=your


147 posted on 06/03/2005 9:03:40 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: gopwinsin04

Geeez Louise, can't they just leave it alone?


148 posted on 06/03/2005 9:05:30 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Agreed.


149 posted on 06/03/2005 9:06:53 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: B4Ranch

I have a stable of horses ready to do their part.


150 posted on 06/03/2005 9:06:57 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: Eagles6
Yeah Doc, I know what it means and your it.

I'm moral equivalence? Uh, you're not doing a convincing job of proving you know, uh, anything.

Keep dancing, though. You cannot show where I claimed moral equivalence, because I didn't. But you've gotten yourself so worked up, and probably see how silly you look because you didn't read my post closely, and cannot provide a quote where I claimed moral equivalence, and cannot answer the post in which I pointed out your error. So you go right along spitting and misusing the English language. That's easier for you than providing a coherent, uh, discussion. So much easier to spout "Troll!" and it seems all you can handle. Go play, now, little boy.

151 posted on 06/03/2005 9:07:57 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (If Al Qaeda took over the judiciary and mainstream media, would we know the difference?)
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To: Farmer Dean

Wouldn't it be great if we could convince illegals that walking across manure would rot their feet off? A 100 yard strip of manure to protec our borders. I wonder if hog manure would keep the Muslims out?


152 posted on 06/03/2005 9:12:17 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Wow, all those statements you make are certainly fact. It just seems so puzzling to me and quite saddens me that so many Americans remain blinded to this evil that walks among us.

I don't see how the Founding Fathers could have possibly of imagined such a religious threat to this nation as Islam inside America. How could they have foreseen such of such a world?


153 posted on 06/03/2005 9:15:31 PM PDT by arizonaconservative
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To: Normal4me
Urinegate commences...

It's wet, Jim.

154 posted on 06/03/2005 9:16:09 PM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (Make welfare as hard to get as a building permit)
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To: Dr.Hilarious; Publius6961

Just another observation of reality.

SLAY THE NON-MUSLIMS: DIRECT QUOTES FROM THE QURAN

2:191 http://tinyurl.com/yreed , And slay them wherever ye catch them.

4:84 http://tinyurl.com/ysbhc , Then fight in Allah's cause.

4:141 http://tinyurl.com/2s5p9 , And never will Allah grant to the unbelievers a way (to triumph) over the believers.

5:33 http://tinyurl.com/2thto , The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter.

8:12 http://tinyurl.com/36u5p , I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.

8:17 http://tinyurl.com/2dxh5 , It is not ye who slew them; it was Allah.

8:60 http://tinyurl.com/2dxh5 , Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into(the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.

8:65 http://tinyurl.com/36u5p , O Prophet! rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers.

9:5 http://tinyurl.com/yvu3f , But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem.

9:14 http://tinyurl.com/yvu3f , Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers,

9:23 http://tinyurl.com/yvu3f , O ye who believe! take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love infidelity above Faith: if any of you do so, they do wrong.

9:28 http://tinyurl.com/yvu3f , O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque.

9:29 http://tinyurl.com/yvu3f , Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been foridden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

9:39 http://tinyurl.com/26bg2 , Unless ye go forth, (for Jihad) He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least.

9:73 http://tinyurl.com/yvu3f , O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell - an evil refuge indeed.

9:111 http://tinyurl.com/26bg2 , Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an

9:123 http://tinyurl.com/yvu3f , O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him.

22:9 http://tinyurl.com/32wdj , (Disdainfully) bending his side, in order to lead (men) astray from the Path of Allah: for him there is disgrace in this life, and on the Day of Judgment We shall make him taste the Penalty of burning (Fire).

22:19-22 http://tinyurl.com/32wdj , These two antagonists dispute with each other about their Lord: But those who deny (their Lord),- for them will be cut out a garment of Fire: over their heads will be poured out boiling water. With it will be scalded what is within their bodies, as well as (their) skins. In addition there will be maces of iron (to punish) them. Every time they wish to get away therefrom, from anguish, they will be forced back therein, and (it will be said), "Taste ye the Penalty of Burning!"

25:52 http://tinyurl.com/3xjey , So obey not the disbelievers, but strive against them herewith with a great endeavour.

25:68 http://tinyurl.com/3xjey , Those who invoke not, with Allah, any other god, nor slay such life as Allah has made sacred except for just cause, nor commit fornication; - and any that does this (not only) meets punishment. (But) the Penalty on the Day of Judgment will be doubled to him, and he will dwell therein in ignominy.

37:22-23 http://tinyurl.com/ytlpp , "Bring ye up", it shall be said, "The wrong- doers and their wives, and the things they worshipped- Besides Allah, and lead them to the Way to the (Fierce) Fire!

47:4 http://tinyurl.com/3bwz5 , Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.

48:13 http://tinyurl.com/2t8ge , And if any believe not in Allah and His Messenger, We have prepared, for those who reject Allah, a Blazing Fire!

48:29 http://tinyurl.com/2t8ge , Muhammad is the messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other.

69:30-37 http://tinyurl.com/2qh7h , (The stern command will say): "Seize ye him, and bind ye him, And burn ye him in the Blazing Fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits! This was he that would not believe in Allah Most High. And would not encourage the feeding of the indigent! So no friend hath he here this Day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds, Which none do eat but those in sin."


155 posted on 06/03/2005 9:18:05 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: Dr.Hilarious
Read post#73.

Go away now Doc, for you are no longer Hilarious nor even funny. Goodbye.

156 posted on 06/03/2005 9:31:20 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Dr.Hilarious; k2blader; Publius6961

Christianity has never been equivocable with Islam.

Never ever, even in Christianity's most torn historical times.

Nice try though.


Don't try to piggyback your unhappiness with Christianity onto the utter vitriol and destruction honest Islam has in mind for infidels and the West.


157 posted on 06/03/2005 9:41:11 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Txsleuth

Yep I saw a report where only Messicans are returned. all others (including terrorists) are released. Outrage upon outrage.


158 posted on 06/04/2005 4:44:36 AM PDT by marty60
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To: arbee4bush
Here's the problem. While Newsweek got the details wrong, they got the essence of the story right. There were situations where the Koran was not respected. If it had urine thrown on it, then that was improper.

Look, I have deep feelings about many of these folks being detained also. I'm not sure where you draw the line between getting the information you need to get and where it crosses the line into abuse. Despite what they are and who they represent, they are still human, maybe in our mind sub human, but still human. And despite how wrong we may believe their faith may be, it is still their faith. And let's face it, Christians sometimes are just as horrible as Muslims are. Northern Ireland come to mind? Where is the religion of peace in that situation?

Put the shoe on the other foot. What if our son or daughter was involved in a situation in their country and got detained. What if they suspected our son or daughter was involved in terror. What if they questioned our son or daughter in the same manner we've qeustioned them? What if our son or daughters Bible or other holy item was abused? There would be outrage from us and our family members and maybe more.

159 posted on 06/04/2005 5:24:56 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: gopwinsin04

This country has a death wish.

Muslims desecrate their Korans more than these isolated incidents.

Nothing is being put in context or in perspective.

The ability to even discern context and perspective is virtually gone.


160 posted on 06/04/2005 5:26:03 AM PDT by tomahawk (http://tomahawkblog.blogspot.com/)
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