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Man with concealed-carry permit shoots gunman (Ohio)
Dayton Daily News ^ | 03 June 2005 | Kelli Wynn

Posted on 06/03/2005 1:34:51 PM PDT by Deadeye Division

Man with concealed-carry permit shoots gunman

By Kelli Wynn

Dayton Daily News

DAYTON | Two men carrying guns approached a 40-year-old man at Riverview Avenue and Catalpa Drive early Friday. Their victim bent over with outstretched hands.

Then things changed swiftly.

The targeted man pulled out a Glock 23 handgun — he has a concealed-carry permit — and fired several shots, hitting one of the gunmen, police said.

Police were dispatched to the 2000 block of West Riverview at about 12:45 a.m. on numerous calls about a shooting.

Police found the 40-year-old male victim at his Dayton residence. He told them that he was walking west on Riverview when he was approached by two males in dark clothing coming from Catalpa. One shoved the victim, the victim turned around and both men in dark clothes flashed handguns, police said.

The victim then "began to back away in a bent-over position with his hands outstretched," according to a police report. Then he pulled out a Glock 23, a .40-caliber handgun, striking one gunman several times, police said.

The two ran off, but police said they caught up with possible suspects at Good Samaritan Hospital.

The victim has both a Dayton Firearms Owner's Identification Card and Montgomery County Concealed Carry Card, police said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
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To: Deadeye Division
The Second Amendment...
America's Original Homeland Security!

Be Ever Vigilant!

21 posted on 06/03/2005 1:57:42 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Deadeye Division

A happy ending would have been TWO perps shot twice in the torso and once in the head


22 posted on 06/03/2005 1:59:13 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans (NRA))))
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To: kromike
The victim will likely be:

At least he was called a victim, consistently too. Now if they'd just have called his assailants that, rather than "gunmen". Sounds like the defender is a real gunman.

23 posted on 06/03/2005 2:03:52 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Deadeye Division

I can't wait for a full report from Amnesty International and the ACLU.


24 posted on 06/03/2005 2:04:26 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Deadeye Division

If concealed-carry permits can save 'one child's life' it is worth it. Take that you stupid libs.


25 posted on 06/03/2005 2:06:43 PM PDT by marylandrepub1 (They are not justices, they are Kings who think they are Gods!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yes, there are still some normal people in Ohio.


26 posted on 06/03/2005 2:08:31 PM PDT by keats5
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To: Mr. Mojo

ping


27 posted on 06/03/2005 2:13:06 PM PDT by csvset
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To: tsali

Several years ago, a clerk in a convenience store nailed a would-be robber, hitting him three times with his 9mm.

Perp lived.

I went down to the store, shook his hand, and gave him a box of the best hollowpoints money can buy in case there was a "next time".


28 posted on 06/03/2005 2:15:52 PM PDT by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: Deadeye Division
SO....I have to ask, what if he didn't have a "permit"? Would he be considered a criminal for protecting himself?

If you need a permit, your just saying you need permission from the government to protect yourself.

FUGETTABOUTIT!! I'll stick with the 2nd amendment and forego the permit. Call me crazy!!


29 posted on 06/03/2005 2:19:47 PM PDT by unixfox (AMERICA - 20 Million ILLEGALS Can't Be Wrong!)
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To: G32

G32: that's the `flat' .45? I'm looking at both a Glock 17 and CZ P-01.
Glocks cycle just about anything, don't they? I have a Browning 9 mm that objects at times to anything but hardball rounds.


30 posted on 06/03/2005 2:25:11 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: guardian_of_liberty

Quite a number of years ago, a close friend, then a Houston Police officer, got a call of armed robbery in progress. He and his HPD partner responded. Gunfight ensued. My friend fired five (5) .45ACP shots, and got three torso hits on one of the bad guys. Bad guy lived, but wears a colostemy bag to empty his bowels. Can't ever tell what will happen in a gunfight.

Semper Fi, Mike.


31 posted on 06/03/2005 2:27:52 PM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: Deadeye Division

Too bad the perps arent dead and the shooter unkown
and the cops content with what happend.
imo


32 posted on 06/03/2005 2:29:06 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Taglines often reveal a lot about the inner person...)
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To: George Smiley
If you insist on using a 9mm, at least use some good ammo...


33 posted on 06/03/2005 2:31:03 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: marylandrepub1
If concealed-carry permits can save 'one child's life' it is worth it.

I like that!

34 posted on 06/03/2005 2:32:37 PM PDT by Chuck54 (Real courage is when you know you're licked before you begin, but you begin anyway. - Harper Lee)
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To: G32
I've shoot a 23 and think it is a great gun. My son carries a Glock 21 (45) in Iraq. The Marines handout 9MM's and some the guys on the teams bring their own guns rather than use the 9MM's. The joke is you might as well throw the 9MM at them because you usually don't stop them with it.
35 posted on 06/03/2005 2:33:45 PM PDT by Recon Dad (Good thinking)
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To: Dead Corpse
"The perp made it to the hospital? Ditch the .40 Short and Weak and up it to a 10mm with full house hollow points."

You sound like a man of my own heart, I carry a Delta Elite and keep my D-E Gold Cup in my night stand. 10mm holes are quite big in and out, especially with hollow points.

36 posted on 06/03/2005 2:33:59 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for not reading the whole article since 1999)
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To: Recon Dad

I love the midsize Glock frame.. The 19, 23, and 32. To me, the .357 Sig 125gr at 1350fps is the best. 14 shots of it. Heavy power.


37 posted on 06/03/2005 2:35:46 PM PDT by G32
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To: zip
"A happy ending would have been TWO perps shot twice in the torso and once in the head"

When you start a sing/song like that you just HAVE to finish it - "That way your sure they always stay dead"

38 posted on 06/03/2005 2:36:34 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for not reading the whole article since 1999)
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To: Dead Corpse
The perp made it to the hospitol? Ditch the .40 Short and Weak and up it to a 10mm with full house hollow points.

A great load if you only want to make one shot every 30 seconds while recovering from the massive recoil. :-/

The .40 S&W works quite well with 155gr.JHPs.

39 posted on 06/03/2005 2:36:53 PM PDT by TChris (Liberals: All death, all the time.)
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To: TChris

I'm 6' 2" and almost 300 ( :-( ) lbs. What recoil?


40 posted on 06/03/2005 2:39:12 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for not reading the whole article since 1999)
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