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Serbia shocked by video showing Srebrenica shootings
The Guardian ^ | June 3, 2005 | Agencies in Belgrade

Posted on 06/02/2005 8:54:24 PM PDT by Hoplite

Agencies in Belgrade
Friday June 3, 2005
The Guardian

They are the images that have finally, 10 years later, shocked a nation. A man, several men, are unloaded from a truck, marched to a wooded hillside and shot, one by one, in the back. Two prisoners are ordered to carry the bodies to a barn. They too are then executed. The murder of thousands of Bosnian Muslims from Srebrenica in the summer of 1995 is well documented. But a video that emerged this week during the trial of the former Serbian president, Slobodan Milosevic, has provoked a bout of soul-searching in Serbia, parts of which are still in denial over the horrors of the Bosnian war.

The footage was the first such graphic material from the massacre in Srebrenica to be shown in the country, where more than half of the population refuses to believe it even took place, according to a poll last month. "Serbia is deeply shocked," President Boris Tadic said. "Those images are proof of a monstrous crime committed against persons of a different religion. And the guilty had walked as free men until now."

Eight alleged former members of a Serb paramilitary group, the Scorpions, filmed actually carrying out the murders, have been arrested on the strength of the footage, officials said yesterday.

The faces of the perpetrators can be seen and their insults to the Muslims heard. The film was shot by a member of the Scorpions.

"The killers had walked freely among us, on our streets, behaving as if they were ordinary, honorable citizens," Mr Tadic said. "All those who committed war crimes must be held accountable; only in this way will we be able to have a future. We must not close our eyes to the cruelty that took place."

He added that the crimes at Srebrenica "were carried out in the name of our nation".

"But crimes are always individual and the perpetrators of these monstrous crimes must be punished."

Srebrenica was overrun by Bosnian Serb forces in July 1995, with UN peacekeepers powerless to stop their advance. Some 8,000 Bosnian men and boys were led away to their deaths, survivors telling of how they were lined up and shot in several batches, then buried in mass graves.

The prime minister, Vojislav Kostunica, called the executions a "disgraceful".

UN prosecutors say the killings in the video footage took place on Mount Treskavica near the wartime Bosnian Serb capital, Pale, which is south-west of Srebrenica. The Scorpions were allegedly under orders from Serbian police in Belgrade and the link could directly tie Mr Milosevic with the crimes committed in Bosnia.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: balkans; bosnia; ihoppy; kosovo; milosevic; muslims; pancakeboy; scorpions; scumsuckingjihadist; serbia; serbs; sorosfluffers; srebrenica; toothlessdhimmi
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The unit in question, the Scorpions, are part of Serbia's Ministry of the Interior, and were involved in atrocities in Kosovo in addition to Bosnia - it was their training ground at Batajnica, outside Belgrade, in which the mass grave of Kosovar Albanians was found in 2001.

This latest revelation is no so much pertinent to Milosevic's trial, in which the prosecution has already finished it's case, as it is to Bosnia's upcoming suit against Serbia in the International Court of Justice - Belgrade's defence has always been that it was not involved directly in Bosnia's war, but that stance has become well nigh unsupportable.

1 posted on 06/02/2005 8:54:25 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

Wonder if this will finally put to rest the apologists and nay sayers on this board who deny crimes were committed by the Serbs.....

not likely is my guess


2 posted on 06/02/2005 8:58:49 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: misterrob

Actually the more recent spin from the apologists is it happened, but every single Bosnian was a rabid fundamentalist Al Queda member by 1995, so it was necessary.


3 posted on 06/02/2005 9:00:22 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

every single Bosnian was a rabid fundamentalist?

Really? Even the children?


4 posted on 06/02/2005 9:01:56 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Hoplite

It took me a while to grasp the idea that bosnians were actually capable of perpetrating massacres against their own people in order to pull gullible American and NATO weenies into their schemes.


5 posted on 06/02/2005 9:03:02 PM PDT by tahotdog
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To: Hoplite

And why was Milosevic more of a threat to our natl. security than Sadam?


6 posted on 06/02/2005 9:03:16 PM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids
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I mean, after this, which part of this BS am I supposed to go on believing?

How stupid do you think the world is?

7 posted on 06/02/2005 9:04:52 PM PDT by tahotdog
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To: Hoplite

Sensible people have never argued that Milosevitch was a nice guy, or that the Serbs never committed any atrocities. Atrocities have been committed by all the various nationalities in former Yugoslavia.

But in Bosnia the Muslims committed more atrocities than the Serbs, and in Kosovo the Albanian terrorists committed, and continue to commit, more atrocities than the Serbs.

I still think it's clear that we fought this war on the wrong side.


8 posted on 06/02/2005 9:06:37 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Hoplite
Did this come out during the Tribunal?

Where's the reference, and Milosevic response?

9 posted on 06/02/2005 9:10:39 PM PDT by duckln
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To: Hoplite
I want to see this video, if it actually exists.

Until then, my BS detector is on high alert.

Amazing how the MSM can report something, but the public is never allowed to view the evidence.

So, is there a video that I can watch, or was this another fiction created by the MSM?

10 posted on 06/02/2005 9:10:40 PM PDT by Hunble
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To: Cicero
I still think it's clear that we fought this war on the wrong side.

True, though imo we should have just taken a pass on this conflict.

11 posted on 06/02/2005 9:10:49 PM PDT by SJackson (Israel should know if you push people too hard they will explode in your faces, Abed. palestinian)
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But in Bosnia the Muslims committed more atrocities than the Serbs, and in Kosovo the Albanian terrorists committed, and continue to commit, more atrocities than the Serbs.

Just wrong - the Serbs not only won the civilian bodycount sweepstakes in all their lost wars, but courtesy of their campaign against Croat Catholic churches, they won the title for Church destructions, and debased any subsequent claims as to their being "Christian" victims.

Seriously Cicero, who do you think you're going to fool with your revisionist garbage, other than fools?

12 posted on 06/02/2005 9:12:31 PM PDT by Hoplite
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Some 8,000 Bosnian men and boys were led away to their deaths, survivors telling of how they were lined up and shot in several batches, then buried in mass graves.

Now this should be easy to verify. At this location, 8,000 bodies should be in a mass grave. It should be trivial to exhume the bodies and validate what this article reported.

What were the autopsy reports for these exhumed bodies? If so, can we read these autopsy reports?

13 posted on 06/02/2005 9:16:14 PM PDT by Hunble
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To: SJackson
All we did was win one for the Islamists.
14 posted on 06/02/2005 9:20:41 PM PDT by endthematrix (Thank you US armed forces, for everything you give and have given!)
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To: Hoplite

I say this with respect: Serbian Mr. Voinovich better be watching this stuff so he knows how incompetent that so-called organization, the UN, is at solving ANY world problem.

Lets see what R. Holdbrook would have had to say about this. Do I hear crickets?


15 posted on 06/02/2005 9:21:50 PM PDT by USAfearsnobody
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To: Cicero
If two unjust men are fighting, the duty of a just man is not to attack the one who has committed marginally fewer gross injustices, nor to stay out of it, but to smash the power of both parties, and institute actual justice, in the place of either side's crimes. Practically, this may not always be possible. But it is the elementary duty such a situation creates. It is obscene to support defenseless men being shot in the back by mocking and indifferent executioners, on the pretext that relatives of those defenseless men once committed some other crime.
16 posted on 06/02/2005 9:22:09 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: Hoplite

Scorpions arrested after video showing

http://www.b92.net/english/news/index.php?&nav_category=12&nav_id=32124&order=priority&style=headlines


17 posted on 06/02/2005 9:22:12 PM PDT by endthematrix (Thank you US armed forces, for everything you give and have given!)
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All we did was win one for the Islamists.

One they wouldn't have won on their own.

18 posted on 06/02/2005 9:22:13 PM PDT by SJackson (Israel should know if you push people too hard they will explode in your faces, Abed. palestinian)
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To: Hoplite
I simply request factual information and not opinions.

If there are actual autopsy reports, video archives, and other factual sources of information, I would love view this information.

Your statements may be correct, but so far, I have been unable to see any supporting factual evidence. Your help would be most appreciated.

20 posted on 06/02/2005 9:24:35 PM PDT by Hunble
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