Dinosaur bones show T. rex link to birds

Reuters ^ | 2005-06-02 | Maggie Fox

[Elsie]

Basically, one in a million circumstances led to the perfect environment for preservation. It's incredibly rare, but it can happen.

Bah...

It's a MIRACLE!!

[Elsie]

It does seem believable when you look at their features and compare them to that of the extinct dinosaurs.

Uh.... just WHAT 'features' do dead dinos have?

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none... only what an ARTIST thinks they might have had.

[Elsie]

Yup... that link just about stomps on all of us creationists by it's strong evidences pointing to it's claim, alright.

[Elsie]

Depends on WHERE you lost it.


Now if you'd been to Wendy's lately........

[FreedomAvatar]

Basically, one in 649,739 circumstances led to the perfect environment for a royal flush. It's incredibly rare, but it can happen.

Bah...

Goddidit!!!

[Elsie]

Do Egyptian records tell anything about the Hebrews that lived among them?

Joseph? Moses? ???

[Elsie]

... To pick a big one, Classical Greek and Roman mythology doesn't mention a world flood. The Norse and their relatives don't have any such story, either.

Concerning Egyptian records ....

OK...

WHY are all these folks speaking and writing vastly different languages?

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Uh.... just WHAT 'features' do dead dinos have?

It's basically the bone structures of dinosaurs, particularly theropods that are similar to modern day birds.

First Ever Fossil Of Sleeping Dinosaur Found In China

Today we know that theropod dinosaurs and birds share more than 100 anatomical features, including a wishbone, swiveling wrists, and three forward-pointing toes.

Many are of the opinion that birds are not descendants of dinosaurs and did not evolve from them but rather modern birds are descendants of birds. They are considered by many scientists to be a branch of the dinosaur family that survived, probably because they could fly away from predators. There have been reported fossils of birds found that are 290 million years old.

[Elsie]

Dang!

NUMBERS!!!!

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[Elsie]

Sediment covered the animal while it was sleeping or resting on the ground, burying the animal alive. This is unlike most fossil animals which die and decompose or are scavenged before burial.

Try pouring a big bunch of sand or something on a sleeping bird, and just SEE if it stays in that postition to die!

[Reaganwuzthebest]

No one knows for certainty yet how dinosaurs may have slept but the similarity in bone structures is definitely there.

[Modernman]

WHY are all these folks speaking and writing vastly different languages?

Tha languages all belong to the Indo-European language group, so they're all related. Why are they different? Because the people involved live in different parts of Europe.

Or did you have an actual question?

[Onelifetogive]

Leftists always claim to support tolerance and diversity, but always end up insulting and name-calling anyone who disagrees with them.....

Maybe I should say...

Leftists always claim to support tolerance and diversity, but often end up insulting and name-calling anyone who disagrees with them.....

[Modernman]

Do Egyptian records tell anything about the Hebrews that lived among them?

I don't know. I doubt there would be much in the records talking about the daily lives of slaves and lower-caste people. Up until recently, the written records of most societies did not focus much on the doings of poorer people in society.

[Modernman]

I, for one, favor the idea that the biblical flood story (and the Gilgamesh story, as well as a lot of other ones) is the garbled hand-me-down of oral traditions concerning the great flood following the collapse of the great-lakes ice-wall at the end of the last glaciation.

It could be a little bit of both. Flood stories probably floated around in most cultures based on the end of the last ice age. At some point, the stories might well have been formalized, much like Homer (or a group of Greek poets) formalized the story of the Trojan wars.

[King Prout]

meaning... a more recent local flood may have caused an author or group to craft an epic about The Big Flood, cannibalizing bits and pieces of older tradition which were folklore concerning the flood at the end of the Ice Age?

makes sense.

impossible to determine either way, but makes sense.

[Modernman]

meaning... a more recent local flood may have caused an author or group to craft an epic about The Big Flood, cannibalizing bits and pieces of older tradition which were folklore concerning the flood at the end of the Ice Age?

I'm speculating, of course. In Europe and Asia, at least, the stories about the melting of the last ice age would also be intertwined with stories of the flood caused by the Mediterranean eroding through the Bosporus and creating the Black Sea (about 10,000 YA, IIRC).

I think the bottom line is that it's not surprising that Hebrew writers picked up a flood story to include in their creation mythology. There's plenty of real-world material to work with there.

[King Prout]

true, true.

[stremba]

Please study some basic biology and/or organic chemistry before making ridiculous assertions such as this. Soft tissue decays as a result of bacterial action. It can be degraded as a result of reaction with oxygen in the atmosphere. Isolate a sample of soft tissue in an environment with limited oxygen and free from bacteria, and it can be preserved indefinitely. The inside of a bone could, under the correct fossilization conditions, be just such an environment.

[stremba]

Please reread the article. This article only mentions in passing the finding of soft tissue. The structure of the bones is what makes the case for the bird/dino relationship. The finding of a particular bone structure that in modern organisms is known to occur only in birds is the evidence, not the existence of soft tissue. Study of the soft tissue is interesting in its own right, but is not the main evidence being presented here.