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To: j24

You're obviously incapable of comparison analysis. Let's put it in simple terms. Poland is occupying historic German lands - they forced Germans out of the area after WWII. Chechnya was conquered after almost a century of fighting by Tsarist Russia. They have been a part of the Tsarist Empire, the Soviet Union, and the Russian Federation. Not one legitimate country has recognized "Ichkeriya's" independence. Chechens are Russian citizens, they hold Russian passports, they can vote, they can work, they can do what the hell they want as long as they do not break laws. What you have in Chechnya is akin to Gdansk rebelling and saying we want to rejoin Germany and/or become independent. Gdansk, I bet you'll say, is a Polish town. Therefore, you would probably want to see such an activity quashed. Imagine you sent troops into Gdansk and they fought to a stalemate. Then a popular Polish general negotiated a settlement that provided Gdansk with autonomy, but not independence. The Gdanskians agreed to it, then an upstart group funded by Germans decided to derail the agreement and blew up a couple of apartment buildings in Warsaw - what would you reaction be?


If you sent in troops to quash it and Gdansk terrorists started blowing up various civilian centers in Warsaw you would want Gdansk brought under control no matter how viciously it had to be done.

Comparing Chechens to American Indians is also a faulty analogy.


133 posted on 06/03/2005 7:17:19 PM PDT by Romanov
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To: Romanov

Unbelivable...


136 posted on 06/03/2005 7:23:29 PM PDT by kaiser80
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To: Romanov
The Gdanskians agreed to it, then an upstart group funded by Germans decided to derail the agreement and blew up a couple of apartment buildings in Warsaw - what would you reaction be?

And do not forget about invading the other provinces while promising the establishment of the Fourth Reich (or Caliphate).

137 posted on 06/03/2005 7:24:23 PM PDT by A. Pole (Mikolaj Rej: "A niechaj narodowie wzdy postronni znaja, Iz Polacy nie gesi, iz swoj jezyk maja.")
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To: Romanov

"Poland is occupying historic German lands"

We have apeace treaty with Germans. They acknowledge that these territiries are ours. Ask them.

"Not one legitimate country has recognized "Ichkeriya's" independence."

Not one country (except Vatican) recognizes Taiwan. Do you mean it would be OK for Chinese to attack this country and slaughter half of its population? For 123 no one recognized our (Polish) independence, but somewhow we are here, hello! We were Russian citizens too. Even Leo Tolstoy (this very enlightened Russian) used to say: those Poles have only one choice: perish or become good Russians. But we are not Russians, damn it! And Chechens are not Russians either.

"What you have in Chechnya is akin to Gdansk rebelling and saying we want to rejoin Germany and/or become independent"

Ther are practically no Germans in Gdansk, for your information.


140 posted on 06/03/2005 7:29:13 PM PDT by j24
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To: Romanov
Poland is occupying historic German lands

That land is as much Polish as German - as far as history is concerned.

they forced Germans out of the area after WWII.

No, you did, because it was a decision made by the Big Three during the Potsdam conference.

No one asked Poles wheter we wanted to "trade" half of Polish territory in the east for the "historic German lands" in the west.
219 posted on 06/04/2005 8:58:53 AM PDT by lizol
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