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Polish TV crew in trouble in Russia
Radio Polonia ^ | 02.06.2005

Posted on 06/02/2005 11:10:04 AM PDT by lizol

Polish TV crew in trouble in Russia 02.06.2005

A Polish diplomat from the Moscow Embassy has gone to Ingushetia to investigate the curcumstances of the detention in Vladikavkaz, the capital of North Ossetia, of three Polish television journalists. After an 8-hour questioning, they had their video cassettes confiscated and were handed over to the Russian Federation security services. They were accused of filming without permission in the region of troops stationing in North Caucasus.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: caucasus; journalists; northossetia; poland; russia
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To: GarySpFc

So what is terrorism? And where is terrorism when we talk about guerrilla warfare?


41 posted on 06/02/2005 3:05:24 PM PDT by kaiser80
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To: GarySpFc
The US Army during the Vietnam War was composed of draftees, and the difference between then and our professional army today is night and day. The Russian army is composed of draftees, and I suspect would measure up to the army we had in the sixties.

That's not what I meant. It's not about draftees. It's about their motivation, morale and command. You really don't want to understand what I mean...

42 posted on 06/02/2005 3:07:59 PM PDT by kaiser80
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To: kaiser80
That's not what I meant. It's not about draftees. It's about their motivation, morale and command. You really don't want to understand what I mean...

A draftee army is NOT motivated, has lousy morale, and the commanders are there to get their cards punched. I was there and saw the American army in Nam, and many of the troops were spaced out on booze and pot. The only exception would be in the elite units. Please tell me how I can understand what you mean? Have you ever been in the army, navy, marines, air force, or coast guard?
43 posted on 06/02/2005 3:25:46 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc
So what is terrorism? And where is terrorism when we talk about guerrilla warfare?

I would really want to read your answer to that question.

What I mean is simple: the scale of deaths of Chechen civilians is way above any justification and the way the russians are dealing with them is inhuman. And my being or not being in the army has nothing to do with it.

44 posted on 06/02/2005 3:32:43 PM PDT by kaiser80
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To: lizol; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; arete; ..
After an 8-hour questioning, they had their video cassettes confiscated and were handed over to the Russian Federation security services.

"video cassettes confiscated"?! What an anti-democratic cruelty! These brave journalists should go next to Uzbekistan - our faithful ally. Maybe they will have some unfortunate accident there (after a little torture of course).

45 posted on 06/02/2005 3:47:47 PM PDT by A. Pole (Mikolaj Rej: "A niechaj narodowie wzdy postronni znaja, Iz Polacy nie gesi, iz swoj jezyk maja.")
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To: Lukasz

They should visit Uzbekistan.


46 posted on 06/02/2005 3:48:45 PM PDT by A. Pole (Mikolaj Rej: "A niechaj narodowie wzdy postronni znaja, Iz Polacy nie gesi, iz swoj jezyk maja.")
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To: kaiser80
Don't forget that Russia is responsible for creating those terrorist.

Yes, by the foolish withdrawal in 1966. As a result of the "trying to be nice guy" naiveness, Russians allowed the worst type of Wahabis and friends of Osama flood to Chechnya. Good example was the savage emir Khattab lionized by the more stupid faction of Polish journalists.

47 posted on 06/02/2005 3:52:11 PM PDT by A. Pole (Mikolaj Rej: "A niechaj narodowie wzdy postronni znaja, Iz Polacy nie gesi, iz swoj jezyk maja.")
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To: Lion in Winter

Poland is a member of NATO.


48 posted on 06/02/2005 3:52:54 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: A. Pole

Yes in a way. They didn't have, don't have and will not have any plan what to do next...That's the key. What now happens is
the result of what happened in the 90's.


49 posted on 06/02/2005 3:58:50 PM PDT by kaiser80
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To: dljordan

Thank You. Thats the exact comment I was about to make.


50 posted on 06/02/2005 4:05:28 PM PDT by porte des morts
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To: lizol; A. Pole

Tutaj chodzi o cos wiecej, nie wiem jak to mozna okreslic w angliku, takze moze ktorys zwas chcialby mi pomoc. Trzymta sie


51 posted on 06/02/2005 4:31:14 PM PDT by anonymoussierra (In te credo, in te credo Deo!!!!!!Confiteor Deo omnipotenti!!!!)
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To: BurbankKarl

Well, oh GOODY!! LOL!!


52 posted on 06/02/2005 4:35:14 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Getting old is NOT for sissies.... trust me, I know!)
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To: Lion in Winter; All

"Now, you know the Russians are fighting the same types of islamics the USA is fighting in Iraq and Afganistan.

I, for one am tired of ANY media trying to undermine the war against islamic terrorists.... whether in Iraq, Afganistan, Gitmo, or Russia.

Why, Poland is helping out in with the USA in the war on terrorism in Iraq. Is the Polish media against that Polish effort in Iraq.... just like our MSM in the USA?"YES!!!!!!!


53 posted on 06/02/2005 4:38:19 PM PDT by anonymoussierra (In te credo, in te credo Deo!!!!!!Confiteor Deo omnipotenti!!!!)
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To: kaiser80
the Chechens in Chechnya may be exterminated indeed

And I've told you before, most of the fighting that is done is done by the local Chechin militia (Provincial National Guard) against the fanatics.

54 posted on 06/02/2005 7:52:37 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Grzegorz 246

Try 200,000 out of 900,000, not quite a third and considering that this is 10 years of fighting, especially a lot of urban and Chechin on Chechin fighting (especially by suiciders & terrorists after whom you guys like naming streets) that's not that much.


55 posted on 06/02/2005 7:57:32 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: kaiser80; Red6; BrooklynGOP; struwwelpeter; Destro; A. Pole; MarMema; YoungCorps; OldCorps; ...
And where is terrorism when we talk about guerrilla warfare?

When the Prime Minister of the Chechins (from 1996-1999) Baseyov takes a maternity hospital hostage and uses pregnant women as shields it is terrorism. When Baseyov leads an invasion into the province of Daghistan slaughtering (on video tape) several unwilling villages, that is terrorism. When buses, trains, and schools are slaughtered, that is terrorism. When Chechins set up quickie road blocks in Ingushia and kill lots of civilians and only a few police/soldiers, that is terrorism. When the Islamic Chechins blow up their president, grandmufti and former Chechin war hero Kudorov, that is terrorism. When Chechin fighters in Grozny put anti-aircraft guns on top of schools and churches, while forcing the civilians to stay there so that they would become casualties, that is terrorism.

When from 1996-1999 1,500+ people were kidnapped for ransom and little children (the prime target) had their fingers cut off as part of the ransom notice, that is terrorism. When captured Russian soldiers were crucified on top of buildings on Eastern (Pasha) of 1995, that is terrorism. When Christian women and children in Grozny had their thumb and first two fingers cut off so they couldn't make the sign of the cross, that is terrorism.

Should I go on, or do you get a clue?

56 posted on 06/02/2005 8:30:54 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: kaiser80
And my being or not being in the army has nothing to do with it.

Oh it has everything to do with your ability (or rather not) to understand what is going on.

57 posted on 06/02/2005 8:32:22 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: jb6; All; A. Pole; Grzegorz 246; lizol

For anonymoussierra full translation

"It seems odd, either fore any reasons thy might have, I'm obligated nevertheless to respond for those who kindly responded with their kind words and self attitude. You need to understand something more important then worrying about some reporters. Self destruction and idiomatic self capture of certain attitudes creates a vacuum of which most will lose itself control. As far as this story goes, we don't know all the facts. So before we would make any judgment. we should just relax for a second, and stop calling others by names. Either fore problems of media can't be explain by simple definition of their attitude. Rather they have lost a sense of stability and being agonistic as they are, they have lost it."

thank you all


58 posted on 06/02/2005 9:31:27 PM PDT by anonymoussierra (In te credo, in te credo Deo!!!!!!Confiteor Deo omnipotenti!!!!)
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To: dljordan
Nice try. You didn't think I would fall for that, did you?

You think I want to be arrested?

59 posted on 06/03/2005 3:40:30 AM PDT by G.Mason ( Republicans – The only U.S. political party adept at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.)
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To: jb6
When the Prime Minister of the Chechins (from 1996-1999) Baseyov takes a maternity hospital hostage and uses pregnant women as shields it is terrorism.

Yes. Notice I've emphasized the first war (94-96)

When Baseyov leads an invasion into the province of Daghistan slaughtering (on video tape) several unwilling villages, that is terrorism.

Thats a form of terrorism, Yes.

When the Islamic Chechins blow up their president, grandmufti and former Chechin war hero Kudorov, that is terrorism.

If that's the case of assassination of the Kremlin puppet, then you're wrong- it's called political diversion, assassination but not terrorism.

When Chechin fighters in Grozny put anti-aircraft guns on top of schools and churches, while forcing the civilians to stay there so that they would become casualties, that is terrorism.

Wrong again. That's son of a b***izm not terrorism.

Terrorism is any kind of action made in order to achive some political, ideological, religious or territorial goals using fear as weapon. So as you see kidnapping for ransom is not terrorism, it's a crime. Killing a leader considered as enemy in war area it's not a terrorism.

For the rest you're right, no doubt. But that's not the point. I was refering to a statement that guerrilla warfare is somehow connected with terrorism. And thats in deffinition separate things.

60 posted on 06/03/2005 3:56:22 AM PDT by kaiser80
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