Posted on 06/02/2005 11:10:04 AM PDT by lizol
Polish TV crew in trouble in Russia 02.06.2005
A Polish diplomat from the Moscow Embassy has gone to Ingushetia to investigate the curcumstances of the detention in Vladikavkaz, the capital of North Ossetia, of three Polish television journalists. After an 8-hour questioning, they had their video cassettes confiscated and were handed over to the Russian Federation security services. They were accused of filming without permission in the region of troops stationing in North Caucasus.
Members of AK can't post here because their dead...
That's the spirit. Bravo...
I'm a Polish troll too. And I don't believe half of the things that's being said about EU on this forum. So I'm a EU troll too. I have no problem about it.:)
Bullshit. There's no comparison between US war on terror and Russia's colonialist war in Chechnya.
So there's two of us ;P
"the German, British, French journalists obtain permission prior to filming"
But they can't obtain permission to film in Chechnya.
Chechnya is a forgotten GENOCIDE. In 20 years people will be talking and writing about Chechnya in the same way they are talking and writing about Cambodia today. I really can't believe there are honest people in America who support Russian terror against Chechens and at the same time claim to be Christians and conservatives!
I sincerely believe there are much more than two, and Putin's fellow travellers and Moscow's useful idiots are in minority.
And likewise I find it hard to believe that someone is willing to deny the existence of Chechen islamic sponsored terrorism just because they're killing innocent Russian men, women, and children.
Perhaps you should study the Gen. Lebed brokered peace agreement with the Chechens after the first Chechen campaign - the Chechens got everything they wanted minus complete independence. But, Basaev and his terrorist buddies rendered the peace agreement null and void with attacks in Russia proper. Their attacks targeted innocent men, women and children. I remember it well because I was in Moscow and a girl I knew and her mom died in the apartment bombings on Kashirskoe Shosse - all because Basaev's puppet strings were being pulled by Khattab - a Jordanian terrorist and an Al Qaeda thug (now dead). Russia's war on Chechnya is a war against terrorism. You probably don't know any Chechens, do you? There are peaceful Chechens and they want to live in the Russian Federation and want to be left in peace. They want the Chechen terrorists wiped out, but with all of the Islamic sponsorship of terrorism they will never get it. Also, a word about Chechen thugs in Moscow - they are the strongest mafia group and enslave thousands of poor Russian women in prostitution, engage in contract killing (including the murder of Pavel Klebanov- an American), engage in revenge slayings, steal money from the poor, and assist the Chechen terrorists when they strike Moscow. Would you allow this in Poland?
What would you do if ethnic Germans in Poland decided they wanted Poles out of Gdansk (Danzig) or Olsztyn (Allenstein)? What if they resorted to terrorism and struck Warsaw in attempt to reach this goal? After all, by using your reasoning in condemnation of the Russians, the ethnic Germans living in those regions surely have the right to emulate the Chechens...
What would you do if an ethnic minority (in this case Germans) enslaved Polish girls from villages by forcing them into prostitution in Warsaw? Would you look the other way if they chained them to a heater in a dank basement in Warsaw and had them gang-raped to force them to submit to prostitution? After all, that's a modus operandi for Chechens in Moscow.. But, once again, since the victims are Russian, I guess it's not a big deal.
Explain how Chechnya is a colony of Russia? Using your logic the Danzig, Allenstein, and Sorkwitten (Gdansk, Olsztyn, and Sorkwity) have been colonized by Poland?
"minus complete independence."
And that's the problem
"But, Basaev and his terrorist buddies rendered the peace agreement null"
Basaev is a terrorist, but he was not a representative of Chechen governement. And about al-Khattab: I am all too happy that the Russians had killed that motherfucker.
"There are peaceful Chechens and they want to live in the Russian Federation"
Oh God Almighty!!! Peaceful Chechens who want to live in Russian Federation??? Of course it is better to be a slave than to be a corpse.
Not at all. Eastern regions of Germany were granted to Poland as a result of Teheran and Yalta agreements (there are virtually no Germas today). Chechnya was conquered by Russia. Chechnya is a colony of Russia in the same way as Algeria was a colony of France, Philippines was a colony of US and Congo was a colony of Belgium.
for sierra(anonymoussiera)full translation
"Either fore concept of this war is based on certain hard questions and facts of which are being disturb by news media of which are nothing else but absolute lies. US have decided to step in and clean a house, as far as Russia goes, they also need to clean their house. You can't absorb terrorist in your mist, fore they are plotting more attacks and more blood shed for innocent people. In simple retrospective, you only have one choice with these people, hit them hard and never look back. If you going to sit down and proclaim this is nonsense then you missing full extent of what this war is all about."
thank you all
The second war is somehow justified. I do belive, however, that if there was no I war, Dudajew would be president and there is a chance nothing that had happened wouldn't have happend.
Slaves and slave markets were in Chechnya.
"What would you do if an ethnic minority (in this case Germans) enslaved Polish girls"
The Germans have their own state. They don't have to kidnap Polish girls.
"since the victims are Russian, I guess it's not a big deal."
You guess so? I don't.
"Not at all. Eastern regions of Germany were granted to Poland as a result of Teheran and Yalta agreements (there are virtually no Germas today). Chechnya was conquered by Russia. Chechnya is a colony of Russia in the same way as Algeria was a colony of France, Philippines was a colony of US and Congo was a colony of Belgium."
"Keep in mind though before passing certain judgments, we have been screw for some time, question is whose fault is it?"
thank you"j24"
No, Chechnya is not like Philippines but like Navajo or rather like Apaches inspired by the Saudies.
Jak sobie poscielisz tak sie wyszpisz dzieki
Exactly. Holy truth.
Thank you
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