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Night Vision Tickets
Wmal morning news ^ | june 2, 2005 | wmal

Posted on 06/02/2005 4:36:19 AM PDT by TrailofTears

MD State Police are using "night vision goggles" to go after seat belt violators.

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TOPICS: Government; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: governmentintrusion; lossoffreedom; nightgoggles; policestate; seatbelt
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To: CPOSharky
Is just my imagination or are the cops looking more and more for the easy "collar"?

It's just business. It's called "Enhancement of revenue streams".

41 posted on 06/02/2005 6:10:24 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (If you only knew the powerrrrr of the Tagline.)
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To: American_Centurion
Long ago they gave up "Serve and Protect" in favor of "Tax and Collect".

It certainly looks that way and it infuriates me as well.

But remember, the cops are doing what the officials that WE ELECT tell them to do. It's not the cops that make the laws. It's the elected officials that have proven that they can't be trusted.

42 posted on 06/02/2005 6:12:20 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Rebelbase

Or the day when I receive a speeding ticket for the elapsed time between toll booth A and toll booth B, automatically generated by my SunPass transponder unit.


43 posted on 06/02/2005 6:12:59 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (...a sheep in wolf's clothing)
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To: nightdriver
But remember, the cops are doing what the officials that WE ELECT tell them to do. It's not the cops that make the laws. It's the elected officials that have proven that they can't be trusted.

And Redcoats were just enforcing the will of the King. Those elected leaders MAY face the music someday, but if the citizenry gets fed up with the crap, the "enforcers" are the ones the people will stretch. Rulers rarely get their due.

If I were there, though your statement regarding elections is true, I wouldn't want to be the one to tell the mob that they voted their way into this mess. You are welcome to if you like.

44 posted on 06/02/2005 6:19:46 AM PDT by American_Centurion
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To: TrailofTears
Cops making stops at night enhances the dangers of driving at night for all involved.

Consider the strobe's and "like a moth to a flame"

PC, as Probably Cause, needed to make a "legal" stop is abundant. License plate marker bulb out, not signaling lane changes etc.
45 posted on 06/02/2005 6:21:37 AM PDT by tiger-one
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To: American_Centurion
I don't hate the individual cop, I hate what their organization has become. Long ago they gave up "Serve and Protect" in favor of "Tax and Collect".

Excellent analysis. They have forgotten their role to protect citizens against crime and have become nothing more than revenue makers for the State in the form of tickets. I laugh at the thought that the police actually believe they are better serving their communities by going after those hardened criminals who (agast) don't have their seatbelts on!!!

46 posted on 06/02/2005 6:24:54 AM PDT by Gerish (Choose God, he has already chosen you.)
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To: B4Ranch
The only solution is to ban night time driving.
47 posted on 06/02/2005 6:26:28 AM PDT by pointsal
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To: TrailofTears

If people don't wish to use a stupid seatbelt for themselves or a helmet, than who cares. They only care about the tickets and being able to claim success in "saving" lives in the news.


48 posted on 06/02/2005 6:32:11 AM PDT by thebaron512
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To: B4Ranch
Police say 40 percent of drivers don't use their seat belts at night, making the roads much more dangerous after sunset.

HOw are the roads less safe when fewer people are wearing seatbelts. There might be an increase in the chance of injury in an accident for those who don't wear seatbelts, but that does not mean the roads are less safe. If you are driving at night and wearing your seatbelt is the road less safe because folks in other cars are nor? There was a study done a few years back that showed that people who have air bags in their car are not as cautious as those that do not. Why? Beacuse with the extra safety device people think they are more protected and do not exercise the care in driving that they would without the air bags.

49 posted on 06/02/2005 6:38:54 AM PDT by feedback doctor (Wimpy Lindsay Graham, I am ashamed of you, you lied to me)
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To: American_Centurion

Amen.


50 posted on 06/02/2005 7:03:26 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: razorback-bert

One it ain't about safety or every school or city bus would have seat belts.....aka shaking down kids for their milk money ain't profitable as well as fining city run transportation. As to this Night Vision use I have to ask every veteran who has actually used NVG's. What happens to your NVG's when ya look directly at headlights or any kind of light with em ?:o)

Most amplification types of night vision devices have a shut off to protect the electronics when a bright light such as an explosion or flare etc goes off. If these NVG's are surplus from Uncle Sugars WOD/HLS aid packages to LEO's then they "WILL NOT" work in a busy street or highway environment with headlights or street lights.

If they have such a system that is newest generation of night vision and will work in such a condition as busy streets or highways with bright headlights , business and house lighting then the cost far outweighs the predicted profit and return for the socialist state in the form of revenue ...........just my opinion of course.


51 posted on 06/02/2005 7:23:03 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: pointsal

AND no Eastward travel until the sun rises to a 30 degree angle, no Westward travel after the sun lowers to a 30 degree angle!

Let's be safe ... for the children!


52 posted on 06/02/2005 7:29:16 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, it's a FREE CALL)
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To: feedback doctor

Burn that report!


53 posted on 06/02/2005 7:29:40 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, it's a FREE CALL)
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To: TrailofTears

These stops have little risk, hence the growing popularity with som leos.


54 posted on 06/02/2005 7:32:27 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Moatengator83Herd
Will the Nanny State close down when one of their finest misplaces one of these NVGs?

How long before nanny gooberment decides that ordinary citizens are not allowed to own night-vision equipment?

55 posted on 06/02/2005 7:34:31 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: B4Ranch
Police say 40 percent of drivers don't use their seat belts at night, making the roads much more dangerous after sunset.

How does my not wearing a seatbelt (assuming I don't) make the roads less safe?

56 posted on 06/02/2005 7:35:44 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: Squantos

I have a night vision moncule that works in the city, cost me a $125 including shipping.


57 posted on 06/02/2005 7:49:05 AM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: ActionNewsBill

Ask these people for the answer.

http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/mdmanual/23dsp/html/dspr.html
DEPARTMENT OF STATE POLICE

CHIEF OF STAFF
Maj. William M. Pallozzi, Chief of Staff (410) 653-4567
e-mail: bpallozzi@mdsp.org

TRAFFIC OPERATIONS
Lt. Mark J. Carter, Commander (410) 799-4548


AUTOMOTIVE SAFETY ENFORCEMENT DIVISION
Capt. Jeffrey R. Gahler, Commander (410) 424-3760
e-mail: jgahler@mdsp.org

STRATEGIC ANALYSIS SECTION
Det. Sgt. Linda Stascavage, Commander (410) 290-0780
e-mail: cid@mdsp.org

© Copyright May 02, 2005 Maryland State Archives


58 posted on 06/02/2005 8:07:16 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, it's a FREE CALL)
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To: razorback-bert

Well you can be the test. See if the new stuff (yours)will allow ya to look down a street at on coming traffic at night and still work or ya can see the seatbelts......all I know is what the PVS 7B's and older PVS-5 goggles and the PVS 4 NV Scope would do when a bright light hit it......

Let me know if ya will.......


59 posted on 06/02/2005 8:22:00 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: B4Ranch

Most of what i encounter in the DC area from the police departments has only to do with revenue gathering or "us verses them" mindset in the police department.

I do feeding on the streets of Washington, DC, usually in evening and mostly in vicinity of public housing. Right down from the capitol area on Penn.Ave SE a couple years ago i was doing some feeding when i observed the following.

There were several businesses that had hired a homeless man to clean the light snow that was coming down off of their sidewalk. I knew this man, as i had fed him soup and sandwiches on many occasions. He lived in abandoned buildings in the vicinity. (This are is very near 8th street SE and I street, the headquarters of the USMC.

As i watched him clean the sidewalk a pair of "DC's finest" came over and began to question the man about where he got his shovel to move the snow. He replied that he had gotten it from one of the storeowners, and that he would be allowed to keep it and to make money with it if he kept the sidewalk clean of snow and ice.

The police immediately grew suspicious and started questioning him and harrassing him telling him that they though he had stolen it from one of the houses nearby. He kept pleading with them to ask the people that gave it to him, but they chose instead to make him quit what he was doing and they impounded the shovel.

I was kind of enraged and began to ask the police what they were up to. They told me to just shut up and mind my own business. I explained to them that this man was actually now gainfully employed and somewhat sober, doing a job that the city should have been doing, and they had no business stopping him. I told them that he would only end up begging again if they drove him away from there. They told me that it was none of my business and that i should shut up.

I replied to them, We are two blocks from Arthur Caper Housing project. Why don't you guys go over there and arrest some of the guys out on the streets selling crack, and leave this hopeless guy alone. I told them that they were bullies and cowards for their refusal to attack real crime and decision to harrass this poor guy who was struggling to make a little change so that he could crawl back into his abandoned building with a little cheap wine.

It is incidents like this that have proven to me that for the most part police will do anything that they want, whenever they want, and there is little accountablility. We need to be "watching the watchers." Plato's Republic is a nightmare of "guardianship" over the rights of the rest of us. I think most police agencies are happy to create a police state right around our heads if we let them.

We need to do more than resist. We need to become activists and make them toe the line.


60 posted on 06/02/2005 8:35:01 AM PDT by TrailofTears ( Only a fool thinks we can squander freedom in a phony exchange for safety without becoming slaves.)
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