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[Flashback] The House of Windsor and the Future of the Faith (Any comments from 2005 perspective?)
Crosswalk.Com ^ | Tuesday, August 26, 2003 | Albert Mohler

Posted on 06/01/2005 6:10:09 AM PDT by NZerFromHK

Albert Mohler Author, Speaker, President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary

Tuesday, August 26, 2003

The House of Windsor and the Future of the Faith

"We have come to regard the Crown as the head of our morality," explained Walter Bagehot, the most influential political journalist of the Victorian era. "We have come to believe that it is natural to have a virtuous sovereign, and that the domestic virtues are as likely to be found on thrones as eminent when there." It's a good thing Bagehot is not alive to witness the current heir to the throne.

Great Britain calmly received the recent news that Charles, Prince of Wales, would soon welcome Ms. Camilla Parker Bowles as his live-in companion at Clarence House, the former home of the Queen Mother. Charles, age 54, and Camilla [divorced from her husband] will live together in an acknowledged sexual relationship, but without marriage.

The outcry has been rather muted. After all, it's hard to muster outrage about the House of Windsor. Scandals have followed the family throughout the last thirty years, and the current crop of royals seem determined to exceed their ancestors in mess-making. Of Queen Elizabeth II's four offspring, three were messily divorced and the British people seem now to take it in stride.

This mess is sure to get messier. "Here we have a future governor of the Church of England, as Charles would be when named king, living in a domestic relationship without paper or clergy with a woman with whom he committed adultery," notes Anne Kingston in the National Post.

But Buckingham Palace seems more concerned with financial scandal than adultery. A spokesman for the Queen explained that Charles would pay for the decorating and furnishing of Camilla's rooms in the palace out of his own personal funds. The Queen seems reconciled to Charles' adultery and co-habitation, but the finances must be above board. Don't say she lacks scruples.

The Queen and Prince Philip have proved to be spectacularly unsuccessful parents, at least if the moral conduct of their children is to be any concern. The Queen has also been an ineffectual governor of the Church of England. Heretics and heresies have multiplied like rabbits under her rule, and some of the church's bishops deny the basic and essential doctrines of the faith. This royal house seems determined to heep a stiff upper lip while accepting a very flexible set of doctrines.

But Queen Elizabeth II at least accepted the title "Defender of the Faith" when she was coronated in 1953. The title, first granted to Henry VIII by Pope Leo X in 1521, became a central part of the royal investiture when Elizabeth I was crowned in 1559. Since then, every British monarch has been crowned "Defender of the Faith"--and that faith was Christianity. Not for long.

Elizabeth II will be the last of the British sovereigns to accept the title. Prince Charles has declared that he will accept only a revised version of the title, "Defender of Faith." Charles, who gives evidence of being on one long quest to find himself, is a portrait of New Age religious confusion. He has dabbled in Hinduism and Buddhism, and apparently believes in reincarnation. He fell under the influence of New Age thinker Laurens van der Post, and often sounds like he's leading a New Age seminar.

"All the great prophets," Charles explains, "all the great thinkers, all those who have achieved an awareness of the aspects of life which lie beneath the surface, all have showed the same understanding of the universe or the nature of God or the purpose of our existence--and that is why I think it is so important to understand the common threads which link us in one great and important tapestry." This is, of course, patently untrue. Upon closer inspection, the major belief systems of the world are seen to be more distinct, rather than more similar. But in Charles' royal religion seminar, everyone always agrees.

So Charles will be crowned "Defender of Faith," or at least this is his plan. "I personally would rather see it as Defender of Faith, not the Faith, because it [Defender of the Faith] means just one particular interpretation of the Faith, which is sometimes something that causes a deal of a problem," he explains. Sometimes something that causes a deal of a problem? Who talks like that?

Charles, if he ever becomes king, will be Britain's first postmodern monarch. Rather than serve as a moral example to his people, Charles will openly commit adultery, move out from his wife, mourn at her funeral, move in with his divorced lover, and eventually, it is assumed, demand to marry her.

America has experienced a postmodern president who wasn't sure what is means and now England has an heir to the throne who doesn't care what the faith is, and neither of these men let Christian morality get in the way of their sex lives.

According to recent statistical reports, cohabitation without marriage is now commonplace in Britain and 38% of all children are born out of wedlock. Only a fraction of the British people profess an active faith or attend church services. The church now faces the threat of schism over homosexuality and homosexual marriage, even as some of its bishops deny the resurrection and other essential doctrines.

Prince Charles seems well tuned for the times--the perfect representative of post-Christian Britain. Of this we can be certain: When Charles takes the crown as "Defender of Faith," it won't be the faith once for all delivered to the saints that he defends.


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The author is President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.

I understand this may sound balcony to some of our British friends who object to the standards to the label of Christian being this "strict". But here the definition of being a Christian is "Evangelical" and is much stricter than secular and common British usage. As defined by the Barna research organization:

http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=BarnaUpdate&BarnaUpdateID=171

"“Born again Christians” were defined in these surveys as people who said they have made “a personal commitment to Jesus Christ that is still important in their life today” and who also indicated they believe that when they die they will go to Heaven because they had confessed their sins and had accepted Jesus Christ as their savior. Respondents were not asked to describe themselves as “born again.” Being classified as “born again” is not dependent upon church or denominational affiliation or involvement.

“Evangelicals” are a subset of born again Christians in Barna surveys. In addition to meeting the born again criteria, evangelicals also meet seven other conditions. Those include saying the Bible is accurate in all that it teaches; saying their faith is very important in their life today; believing they have a personal responsibility to share their religious beliefs about Christ with non-Christians; believing that Satan exists; believing that eternal salvation is possible only through grace, not works; believing that Jesus Christ lived a sinless life on earth; and describing God as the all-knowing, all-powerful, perfect deity who created the universe and still rules it today. Being classified as an evangelical has no relationship to church attendance or the denominational affiliation of the church they attend."

I can guarantee that over 90% of those who call themselves "Christians" in Britain (and perhaps at least 70% in the US) will not be a Christian under this definition.

1 posted on 06/01/2005 6:10:10 AM PDT by NZerFromHK
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To: NZerFromHK
Evangelical or not, all that royal cavorting by the "Defencer of the Faith" -including the over-rated Saint Diana - doesn't bode well for future of true Christianity in any of its public manifestations.

Churches in England are virtually empty (I hear from a Messianic Rabbi in London) and even admitting your Christianity is social suicide. Not a pretty picture.

2 posted on 06/01/2005 6:28:06 AM PDT by steenkeenbadges
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To: steenkeenbadges

I agree. I'm so surprised that a land so Christian in the great awakenings could fall to this state. Some has even remarked that Britain has even fewer true Christians (those who are truly born again by trusting Jesus Christ alone as his personal Saviour) than Australia, despite Australia has only 35% of Britain's population.


3 posted on 06/01/2005 6:31:58 AM PDT by NZerFromHK ("US libs...hypocritical, naive, pompous...if US falls it will be because of these" - Tao Kit (HK))
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To: NZerFromHK
Muslims are less than 4% of the UK population. However, more Muslims attend weekly religious services than nominal Christians now do in the UK.
4 posted on 06/01/2005 6:56:15 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: NZerFromHK

If you accept the principle of an hereditary monarchy, it's completely illogical to expect the monarch to be any more or less virtuous than the rest of the population. The Victorians (and Bagehot is quoted here) have a lot to answer for in beginning the sentimentalization of the monarchy and the expectation that it should be particularly virtuous. If you're dependent, as by definition you are, on what the gene pool throws up, you're going to get the occasional saint, knave or fool, and for the rest of the time perfectly ordinary, mediocre people distinguished neither by virtue nor by vice - like most of us.

As for Charles, just look at some of his predecessors. Every century or so the monarchy seems to throw up a serial womanizer (Henry VIII, Charles II, George IV, Edward VII) beside whom Charles is a paragon of chastity. Yet even the prudish late Victorians never suggested that his many affairs should disqualify the Prince of Wales, later Edward VII, from the throne. They were able to distinguish the office from the man, which unfortunately neither this writer nor a large number of contemporary Britons, who get their knickers in such a twist over this, seem able to do.


5 posted on 06/01/2005 7:45:52 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: NZerFromHK
Charles: "Defender of the Faith...causes a deal of a problem." Wrong. In this therapeutic world we don't have problems any more; we have issues. Of course, Charles has so many issues that he must have a subscription.
6 posted on 06/01/2005 8:04:48 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: Winniesboy; NZerFromHK
If you accept the principle of an hereditary monarchy, it's completely illogical to expect the monarch to be any more or less virtuous than the rest of the population. The Victorians (and Bagehot is quoted here) have a lot to answer for in beginning the sentimentalization of the monarchy and the expectation that it should be particularly virtuous

Good point. But don't blame Bagehot for Albert burning pants Mohler's deceptive quoting.
The full context is

Fourthly. We have come to regard the Crown as the head of our morality. The virtues of Queen Victoria and the virtues of George III. have sunk deep into the popular heart. We have come to believe that it is natural to have a virtuous sovereign, and that the domestic virtues are as likely to be found on thrones as they are eminent when there. But a little experience and less thought show that royalty cannot take credit for domestic excellence. Neither George I., nor George II., nor William IV. were patterns of family merit; George IV. was a model of family demerit. The plain fact is, that to the disposition of all others most likely to go wrong, to an excitable disposition, the place of a constitutional king has greater temptations than almost any other, and fewer suitable occupations than almost any other.

7 posted on 06/01/2005 6:21:56 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (What ever crushes individuality is despotism, no matter what name it is called. - J S Mill)
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