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Gitmo Detainees Say Muslims Were Sold
Washington Post & AP ^ | 05/31/05 | Michelle Faul

Posted on 05/31/2005 10:00:56 PM PDT by Pikamax

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By MICHELLE FAUL The Associated Press Tuesday, May 31, 2005; 9:20 PM

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico -- They fed them well. The Pakistani tribesmen slaughtered a sheep in honor of their guests, Arabs and Chinese Muslims famished from fleeing U.S. bombing in the Afghan mountains. But their hosts had ulterior motives: to sell them to the Americans, said the men who are now prisoners at Guantanamo Bay.

Bounties ranged from $3,000 to $25,000, the detainees testified during military tribunals, according to transcripts the U.S. government gave The Associated Press to comply with a Freedom of Information lawsuit.

A former CIA intelligence officer who helped lead the search for Osama bin Laden told AP the accounts sounded legitimate because U.S. allies regularly got money to help catch Taliban and al-Qaida fighters. Gary Schroen said he took a suitcase of $3 million in cash into Afghanistan himself to help supply and win over warlords to fight for U.S. Special Forces.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anthonylake; cia; davidmanners; deutch; garyschroen; hart; howardhart; jeffreysmith; johndeutch; lake; manners; robertbaer; schroen; tonylake; washpo
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and this is bad....
1 posted on 05/31/2005 10:00:56 PM PDT by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

Start killing them on the battlefield instead of capturing them and the entire problem with Gitmo will go away. Any ones with useful information will offer it up voluntarily to save their own skins. Otherwise shoot them on the spot.


2 posted on 05/31/2005 10:03:40 PM PDT by boofus
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To: Pikamax
See also:

Gitmo Detainees Say They Were Sold
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On News/Activism 05/31/2005 12:58:19 PM CDT · 31 replies · 1,252+ views


AP ^ | 5/31/5 | MICHELLE FAUL
SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico -- They fed them well. ThePakistani tribesmen slaughtered a sheep in honor of their guests, Arabs and Chinese Muslims famished from fleeing U.S. bombing in the Afghan mountains. But their hosts had ulterior motives: to sell them to the Americans, said the men who are now prisoners at Guantanamo Bay. Bounties ranged from $3,000 to $25,000, the detainees testified during military tribunals, according to transcripts the U.S. government gave The Associated Press to comply with a Freedom of Information lawsuit. A former CIA intelligence officer who helped lead the search for Osama bin Laden told...

3 posted on 05/31/2005 10:05:02 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Life's a beach - and Liberals are like the sand that gets in your swimsuit...)
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To: Pikamax

So what't the story here? This is Certainly Not News(tm).

All it proves is that Muslims can't even trust Muslims.

A great waste of money in my opinion, paying for trash, that we then have to house in Gitmo for years, while at the same time allowing the Pakistanis to fly their fighters out with helicopters in a country where WE OWNED the airspace.


4 posted on 05/31/2005 10:10:17 PM PDT by konaice
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To: Pikamax

I really fail to see the problem here. If the detainees have a gripe with the people who sold them them out, let them go after them.


5 posted on 05/31/2005 10:11:31 PM PDT by sageb1
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To: Pikamax

I might contribute to a bounty on murderers and terrorists, but who in their right mind would want to buy a Muslim?


6 posted on 05/31/2005 10:37:09 PM PDT by angkor
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To: Pikamax
Gary Schroen again :

US Spy Ordered to Bring Home Bin Laden's Head on Dry Ice AFP ^ | Tue May 3

He's also been peddling his book on NPR.

7 posted on 05/31/2005 10:39:14 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Bump!


8 posted on 05/31/2005 10:41:31 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: Pikamax


Like we give a rip.


9 posted on 05/31/2005 10:42:37 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: boofus
"Start killing them on the battlefield instead of capturing them and the entire problem with Gitmo will go away. Any ones with useful information will offer it up voluntarily to save their own skins. Otherwise shoot them on the spot"

If there were no such thing as Democrats, this is probably what would happen.

10 posted on 05/31/2005 10:42:55 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: Windsong

The SSS strategy needs to be implemented, since the sheethead world is very disturbed with how we treat illegal combatants captured on the field of battle....

SSS - Shoot, Shovel and Silence

Semper Fi


11 posted on 05/31/2005 10:59:15 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat


Shoot, shovel and slience! EXCELLENT.


12 posted on 05/31/2005 11:00:29 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: piasa; Keith in Iowa; onyx

So are we to understand that terrorists are now considered "sources" for the Washington Post?


13 posted on 05/31/2005 11:01:13 PM PDT by Howlin (Up or down on Janice Brown!)
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>>>So are we to understand that terrorists are now considered "sources" for the Washington Post?

Yes - especially those who've been conditioned to lie about their experience in captivity.


14 posted on 05/31/2005 11:02:43 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Life's a beach - and Liberals are like the sand that gets in your swimsuit...)
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To: Fedora
Yet another appearance by Gary Schroen:

Mr. [Richard] Clarke told the agency to carry on with planning and begin drafting the legal documents necessary for covert action.

In March 1998, planners conducted a third rehearsal and briefed Mr. Clarke on the outcome. In a note to Mr. [Sandy stuffed-pants] Berger on March 7, Mr. Clarke described the operation as "somewhat embryonic" and the C.I.A. as "months away from doing anything."

The chief of the bin Laden unit at the agency thought the plan was "the perfect operation." The required infrastructure was minimal, and the plan had been modified to keep Mr. bin Laden in hiding for up to a month before handing him over to the United States, thus enhancing the chances of keeping American involvement hidden.

The C.I.A. field officer in charge, Gary Schroen, called the tribal leaders' abilities "professional and detailed," according to the report. Mr. Schroen said the plan was "about as good as it can be," meaning a 40 percent chance of capturing or killing Mr. bin Laden. Yet even the best planning, he added, would not prevent that point when "we step back and keep our fingers crossed."

Military officers reviewed the capture plan and, the bin Laden station chief said, "found no showstoppers."

There were, however, concerns, according to the report. The commander of Delta Force, the elite military unit, felt "uncomfortable" leaving Mr. bin Laden a captive of the tribal leaders for so long, while the commander of joint special operations forces, Lt. Gen. Michael Canavan, feared for the safety of the tribal leaders within Tarnak Farms.

At that point, however, Mr. Berger worried about what would be done with Mr. bin Laden if he was captured. The hard evidence against Mr. bin Laden that would lead to any conviction was still skimpy, Mr. Berger said, and there was a danger of bringing him back to the United States only to see him acquitted.

------- "Kidnapping of bin Laden Was Rehearsed in '98 but Scrapped, 9/11 Report Says," By THOMAS CRAMPTON, The New York Times, July 26, 2004


15 posted on 05/31/2005 11:02:50 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Howlin

Well, if you stoop low enough to source what currently passes for democrats.... what's a little terrorist or two?


16 posted on 05/31/2005 11:04:29 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Howlin

Abso-damn-lutely -- they're "sources."


17 posted on 05/31/2005 11:06:38 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: boofus

"Start killing them on the battlefield instead of capturing them "
roger this.....


18 posted on 05/31/2005 11:08:20 PM PDT by injin (God Bless the USMC)
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To: Pikamax

and the problem is...?


19 posted on 06/01/2005 3:14:26 AM PDT by Route101
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To: konaice
Most of the West African slave traders in the 17 - 18th centuries were Arabs(Muslims). I would say blacks can't trust then either
20 posted on 06/01/2005 6:32:46 AM PDT by Old North State
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