BREAKING - Dems Successfully Filibuster Bolton in Senate

CSPAN | 5/26/05 | Me

[So Cal Rocket]

Bolton fails to get the 60 votes to invoke cloture. Dem filbuster is on.

[Nuc1]

I'll say this one more time. MAKE THEM VOTE. I bet when they have to vote they will "do the right thing". Otherwise, we will really know where they stand. Don't give them a fig leaf. Don't give them cover. Drive them, press them, embarrass them, until they surrender and see it our way or are out of the party. Give them no quarter and no peace. Make LBJ look like a Mamma's boy. Attack, attack, attack and the weak ones, which will be enough, will buckle.

[FreeReign]

What he and I don't understand is why there isn't any party discipline to keep the "10" in line.

The 10 RINO's like to be on the side of the MSM. That leaves us 45 fairly good conservatives. It's hard to keep the RINO's in line when we conservatives are a minority of 45 out of a hundred. It can't be more simple than that.

If we conservatives want power in the senate -- we need to elect more conservative senators. We need to have a majority of Conservatives.

Walking away for a while until improvements are made seems appropriate.

You might think that's appropriate. I'll continue to work for more conservative senators.

How did Specter win his primary fight? Did he dazzle the electorate with his handling of his conservative opponent or or did he get party heavyweights to beg the electorate to support him?

The people of Pennsylvania voted for Specter. I believe they are responsible for Specter. Ya know, at one time self responsibility was considered a Conservative principle.

[Nuc1]

I really am happy for you. Stick with them, help them, and support them. (not kidding) But they are not the problem, are they? We have to get their attention. Don't feel bad, sometimes you have to lance a boil and it hurts a bit but it gets better in the end.

[Nuc1]

Conservative or not they have to support the Constitution. They only support their reelection. Snow and Collins should be lashed into line. They need to be with America when it counts. Otherwise toss them out who needs them. The time has come to face facts. The numbers fall where they fall at least we will know where we stand.

[Nuc1]

You are correct as usual. Atleast since I have been around.

[Nuc1]

They are not with "us" when it really counts. That is the real problem. This is a constitutional issue and they left us cold. Wake up. You are being used.

[ohioWfan]

Used? LOL! By whom?? How??

I'm perfectly wide awake and aware of the Constitutional issues at stake..........and also aware that we have not seen the end of this fight. So I'm not as anxious as some of you to declare defeat when the war is not yet over.

If you want to, fine. I'm just not a defeatist like you and your pals.....

[Dont_Tread_On_Me_888]

lol

I wish I wasn't. You and I have a lot to be outraged about.

[Nuc1]

Good post. They will know of my anger tomorrow.

[Nuc1]

You don't know what McCain will do. No one does.

[Nuc1]

There is no party discipline because the leadership doesn't enforce it. By the way, we have a majority in the senate, most of them sold as conservatives. Don't seem that way though does?

Walking away will wake up the leadership. This doesn't mean we don't support conservatives where appropriate. It does mean we go with the man not the party.

The people of Pennsylvania were duped by the Republican leadership. They gave Bush and Santorum the benfit of the doubt. That is how Specter got his seat. Heck I trusted them and where are we? So who did you work for? Who do you trust? Do you even know?

[Nuc1]

Not defeated by you or anyone else.

[ohioWfan]

Your point being?

[ohioWfan]

Not defeated by me? Can you start making a little sense here?

I'm trying to buck you negativists up......not defeat you.

I'll repeat it one more time. The battle is not over, and it is not lost.

[HankReardon]

No law dude, I did not know that in order to have a fillibuster a senator does no longer need to do a "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" fillibuster. TOO BAD! They should have to stand there and read the D.C. phone book as long as they are physically able, as soon as they are not able, strike the gavel AND CALL A VOTE!

[Nuc1]

I concur with you that the battle is not over. I know it will get done. I am just tired of all this wasted time. We don't have forever. No hard feelings.

[alienken]

"Need leadership w/spine" - Bump

[Pete98]

I agree except that if we aren't going to represented at the UN, we need to withdraw all funding to it as well.

[Toliy]

That PDF document was a very good read. Thank you very much for clarifying!