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Probe finds Mexican students crossing border to attend school
ASSOCIATED PRESS ^ | 05.25.2005 | Arthur H. Rotstein

Posted on 05/25/2005 5:56:46 PM PDT by Boston Blackie

Students living in Mexico have been regularly crossing the border to attend school in a remote southern Arizona community, a misuse of taxpayer funds, the state's top education official said Wednesday.

State schools Superintendent Tom Horne said an investigator he sent to the port of entry in Lukeville videotaped students walking across the border to a bus stop 200 yards north, then taking school buses to the community of Ajo.

A Lukeville trailer park employee also told the investigator that utility receipts issued as proof of residence were provided by the trailer park, and not a real utility, Horne said. The investigator found that addresses listed on the utility receipts at the trailer park had no homes at those locations.

Horne said he undertook the investigation after stories appeared in The Arizona Republic and after the Arizona attorney general's office said it would not investigate because there was no allegation of a crime.

"The allegation is that taxpayer funds were being misused," said Horne.


TOPICS: Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; congress; education; plyervdoe; probe; scotus
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1 posted on 05/25/2005 5:56:47 PM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie
A Lukeville trailer park employee also told the investigator that utility receipts issued as proof of residence were provided by the trailer park, and not a real utility, Horne said. The investigator found that addresses listed on the utility receipts at the trailer park had no homes at those locations.

Someone needs to go to jail.

2 posted on 05/25/2005 5:58:19 PM PDT by ikka
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To: ikka

I've seen variations of this story for years. The schools don't want to rock the boat because they're getting paid per student.

A lot of people need to go to jail, but I'd bet money that nobody does.


3 posted on 05/25/2005 6:01:21 PM PDT by digitalbrownshirt (Mostly harmless.)
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To: ikka
Naw, naw, naw ~ just put an end to this. The trailer park operator is probably an illegal too.

I am ROTFLMAO.

No doubt the entire trailer park was put there for the purpose of hiding the fact that the whole place was full of illegal aliens.

4 posted on 05/25/2005 6:02:29 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Boston Blackie


Geez... tell me something new.
Living in San Diego for years, they used to have news stories showing school buses pulling up to the border to pick up dozens of illegals for school every day.
It was a regular bus stop.


5 posted on 05/25/2005 6:03:16 PM PDT by golfboy (character is doing what is right, when no one is looking)
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To: Boston Blackie
If US authorities attempt to stop this abuse then MALDEF will sue the American taxpayer on behalf of mexicans.
6 posted on 05/25/2005 6:05:52 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (To hell with Mexico, its policies, and its leaders)
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To: ikka; HiJinx; Spiff
You should see the BS regular US citizens have to put up with just to register children in the schools, here in Pima County. I would bet if you have to register in Spanish there would be altered requirements.
7 posted on 05/25/2005 6:08:14 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles (Ha!)
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To: ikka

>> Someone needs to go to jail.

You know as well as I do that no one is going to jail, nevermind even being charged.

Let them tax the locals till their eyes bleed, there are other avenuse to stop this invasion.

Jail those who employ illegals, and overall make it impossible to survive here without leagal status. Jail those who rent housing to illegals without leagal status.
do not give them liscences.

Local police need the power to force deportations, they are on the front line of this mess, and deal with the same illegals over and over again. Most locals dont even call the INS, as they are simply hung up on. This I know for a fact.


8 posted on 05/25/2005 6:13:17 PM PDT by mmercier (how far the mighty have fallen)
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To: axes_of_weezles
Here is the list of requirements to enroll in a public school in Pima County, (Ajo is Pima County). I have the paperwork right next to me.

1. Immunization Records. (ARS 15-843)

2. Birth Certificate

3.Proof of legal guardianship/custody

4. Proof of residency This must be either a deed to your home or a property tax statement

5. Withdrawal forms from previous school

6. Transcript or report card from previous school.

I dont see where rental receipt records suffice.

9 posted on 05/25/2005 6:14:43 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles (Ha!)
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To: Boston Blackie

No big deal, it just tax payer money and the Bush administration GOP knows that tax payer money is free.


10 posted on 05/25/2005 6:15:18 PM PDT by jpsb (I already know I am a terrible speller)
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BTTT


11 posted on 05/25/2005 6:17:37 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: Boston Blackie
This was news 20 years ago. Only the idiots at the Associated Press would find this fact to be news now.

If they had an ounce of grey matter in their heads, the dilettantes at the AP would have entitled the headline, "Probe finds that after 20 years, Mexicans still cheat the US Taxpayer by attending American schools."

12 posted on 05/25/2005 6:17:57 PM PDT by tom h
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To: Boston Blackie
Plyler vs. Doe
1982
- A Summary -

In 1982, the Supreme Court rules in Plyler v. Doe , 457 U.S. 202 (1982), that public schools were prohibited from denying immigrant students access to a public education. The Court stated that undocumented children have the same right to a free public education as U.S. citizens and permanent residents. Undocumented immigrant students are obligated, as are all other students, to attend school until they reach the age mandated by state law.

Public schools and school personnel are prohibited under Plyler from adopting policies or taking actions that would deny students access to education based on their immigration status.

Based on the Supreme Court's ruling, public school districts should consider the following practices in working with ELL students:

School officials may not require children to prove they are in this country legally by asking for documents such as green cards, citizenship papers, etc. They may only require proof that the child lives within the school district attendance zone, just as they might for any other child. Schools should be careful of unintentional attempts to document students' legal status which lead to the possible "chilling" of their Plyler rights.

The following school practices are prohibited:

Barring access to a student on the basis of legal status or alleged legal status.
Treating students disparately for residency determination purposes on the basis of their undocumented status. Inquiring about a student's immigration status, including requiring documentation of a student's legal status at initial registration or at any other time.
Making inquiries from a student or his/her parents which may expose their legal status.
Federal Program Requirements - Federal education programs may ask for information from parents and students to determine if students are eligible for various programs, such as Emergency Immigrant Education. If that is the case, schools should ask for voluntary information from parents and students or find alternative ways of identifying and documenting the eligibility of students. However, schools are not required to check or document the immigrant status of each student in the school or of those students who may be eligible for such programs. The regulations do not require alien registration numbers or documentation of immigration status.

Social Security Numbers - Schools should not require students to apply for Social Security numbers. If schools decide to pass out Social Security registration forms to assist the Social Security Administration, they must tell parents and students, in appropriate languages, that the application forms are merely a service and it is up to the parents and students whether the applications are actually filed. They should stress that schools will not monitor the filing of these applications. Additionally, schools should not require any student to supply a social security number. School Lunch Programs - In order to qualify for Free or Reduced Lunch Programs, all applicants are required to furnish either of the two following types of information: Social Security numbers of all household members over the age of 21, should they have one .

For all household members above the age of 21 who do not have a Social Security number, an indication of the application that he or she does not possess one. If a student or household members over the age of 21 do not have a Social Security number, "none" should be written in that space or another identifying number could be assigned by the school.

Parents and students should be reminded that the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) prohibits any outside agency, including the Immigration and Naturalization Services (INS), from getting this information without obtaining permission from the student's parents or a valid court order. School lunch programs are interested in determining household income, not in determining a student's legal status.

Communication with INS - Any communication to INS initiated by a school or school official concerning a specific student is prohibited. If parents and/or students have questions about their immigration status, school personnel should refer them to legal service organizations, immigrant rights organizations, or local immigration attorneys. They should not advise immigrants to go directly to INS offices without first getting proper advice from an attorney or immigrant rights advocate.

Requests for information by INS - School personnel are prohibited from cooperating with INS in any way that may jeopardize an immigrant students' right of access (with the exception of the administration of F-1 and J-1 visas). INS requests for information can only be released upon the presentation of a valid subpoena. All school personnel should be advised of this policy. If a subpoena is presented, it may be advisable to check with an attorney to properly check into the validity of the subpoena.

Requests by INS to enter a school - School personnel should not cooperate with INS in any manner that jeopardizes immigrant students and their right of access. The school principal should meet with INS officials in the front office with a credible witness present, deny the INS officials consent, and request to see a legal warrant. If a warrant is presented, the principal should determine that it:

Lists the school by its correct name and address
Lists students by name
Be signed by a judge
Be less than ten days old
Be served by an INS officer with proper identification.

To protect other students in the school, the principal should bring the INS officials to the office and request that they remain there while the named student(s) is brought to them. The principal should immediately inform the Superintendent and school attorney.

School District Personnel should always consult an attorney to clarify their duties and responsibilities under Plyler. This document is intended solely for guidance.

Source:
"Immigrant Students: Their Legal Right of Access to Public Schools. A Guide for Advocates and Educators" by John Willshire Carrera, Esq. National Coalition of Advocates for Students. Boston MA

13 posted on 05/25/2005 6:37:07 PM PDT by boris (The deadliest weapon of mass destruction in history is a leftist with a word processor.)
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To: Boston Blackie
I was living in El Paso, Tx from 1983 - 1985 and it was common knowledge that Mexicans were crossing the borders to attend schools there.
14 posted on 05/25/2005 6:40:24 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: digitalbrownshirt
I've seen variations of this story for years. The schools don't want to rock the boat because they're getting paid per student.

Me too, I have seen this on tv, several years ago, Texas I think, showing lines of kids crossing the border each morning to go to school in Texas for free. This is not news and didnt need a "probe".

15 posted on 05/25/2005 6:41:58 PM PDT by SandyB
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To: Boston Blackie
Even 60 Minutes showed Mexicans crossing the river to go to school and going back over after school.

Worse, the Mexicans rent P.O. Boxes in the valley and cross over to get their welfare checks. There is a town in the TX valley that has portable mail boxes -- more boxes than the town's population! Been going on for years!

16 posted on 05/25/2005 6:45:44 PM PDT by lonestar (Me, too!--Weinie)
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To: Boston Blackie

i remember a time in the late 80's or early 90's when this was reported by the los angeles times positively and as a matter-of-fact as a feature story on the good relations on the border.


17 posted on 05/25/2005 6:46:07 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: Americanexpat; blackie
The he** with the INS or BP. The local sherriff should take action. I feel for the kids, not enough to let me pay for their education. Bust the bus driver, the Trailer park for harboring illegal aliens, get the Ajo police to bust the kids for trespassing.

Prop 200 should put an end to this, if Napolitano doesnt fruit her way out of it.

If that fails, deny county tax monies and state tax monies and let the feds pay the bill.


18 posted on 05/25/2005 6:48:07 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles (Ha!)
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To: boris

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=AJO+arizona&spn=0.839844,2.224912&hl=en

As you can see from the map Ajo is a ways (60-70 miles) from the Border. Per your post, the school only has to verify that they live in the boundaries of the school district. I doubt Mexico is within in Ajo's school district boundary.


19 posted on 05/25/2005 6:59:42 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles (Ha!)
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To: Boston Blackie

We, the American Public, are getting raped while the government smiles at our rapist.

When will this stop??


20 posted on 05/25/2005 7:12:45 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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