[Tulane]

I was not happy with the comprimise, but isn't this getting a little silly? Haven't Graham and some of these other guys been right more times than they have been wrong? Did we not get the bankruptcy and tort reform bills passed? Did we not get 3 of the most conservative judges through? Who would replace McCain, a Democrat? Would that help Bush appoint conservative judges?

Chill out, folks. You never win 100% of the time, and the Gipper Himself made plenty of comprimises.

[no dems]

If you plant 20 acres of corn and 1 acre of stink weed, the 20 acres of corn does not offset the stink weed and the odor is more offensive than the sweet smell coming from the corn. You reap what you sow.

[man from mars]

You never compromise on the constitution! The Gipper didn't!

[Cowman]

the Gipper Himself made plenty of comprimises.

He never had a majority in both houses either

[calex59]

The big deal is the agreement is unconstitutional in that it tries to usurp the power of the president to appoint judicial nominees without consulting anyone before hand. The so called agreement is also non enforceble because only 14 peopel signed it out of 100 senators. Frist has said he doesn't recognize this agreement and the constitutional option is still on the table because Frist didn't sign on to this. This agreement is unspeakable arrogance on the part of the 7 RINOS and the dems because they are presupposing that their agreement overides the rest of the senates wishes.

Frist has said he will bring all nominees up for a vote and that the constitutional option is still on the table, he doesn't care what Reid and the RINOS have to say about it.

[cvq3842]

I hope you are right!

Let me tell you where I'm coming from. I often feel like one of the more "moderate" (leftist?) people in the context of these boards. Maybe I am, maybe not. I have often argued with people who said "why vote Republican instead of for a REAL conservative," because it would split the party. Bush is not perfect, but he's miles ahead of Kerry. Why cut off your nose to spite your face. Look how Nader helped Bush, not Gore.

Problem is, people feel very, very betrayed here. It's hard to talk about the judiciary without getting into the specifics of hot-button issues, but on topics like same-sex marriage and abortion on demand, people feel passionately that the voters acting through the legislature and not the courts should have the say. They gave their hard-earned money and worked their butts off to get to this point, and they see a monumental sell-out. They feel deceived and cheated.

Maybe the senators know more than we do. Maybe more can get done in the Senate now and Bush can still get his share of nominees. But in my heart I doubt it. The thousands of posts here since Monday demonstrate that people don't think the Republicans have the nerve to do what they were elected to do. Some have thrown in the towel.

I don't want to see a Hillary Clinton presidency, ever. Her positions and total lack of character make her terribly dangerous. But the Republicans have to be careful not to keep giving a big chunk of their base "half a loaf" or less. If we can't get the changes we want now, then when can we?

Building a third party is tremendously difficult. And it strengthens the opposition in the meantime. Ask a Perot voter. Or just ask Bush 41. Only one "third-party" candidate ever made it to the White House. In 1860.

I didn't mean to go off on you personally. I hope you are right. I am trying to hope for the best. I don't want to go off on a DU-type rant, but I have to be honest.

[Digger]

Who would replace McCain, a Democrat?

So be it. He's a cancer in the pubbie party. In any organization these people should be expelled. They do it in business, in sports etc. Where is any accountability? If there is ever a chance to change things it is this opportunity & if you fail to make these jerks pay a price forget any concervative a agenda to develope for decades. I would also go after Frist. He better put these other judges up for confirmation or else he can go. You know what would happen if the dems were in charge.

[Inwoodian]

Seems to me that Graham is a strong candidate for the "Strange New Respect" award. As a House Manager in the Clinton imoeachment he voted against some of the counts. He backed McCain over Bush and complained about the Bush tactics in South Carolina (which have never been fleshed out". Now he thinks he can make nice-nice with the likes of Kennedy and Schumer. Makes me think there might be some truth to the blackmail rumors.

[sport]

" Did we not get 3 of the most conservative judges through? "

No, we did not.

There seven that won't even be voted on. All seven are probably more conservative that the three that will [may] be approved.