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I hope you are right!

Let me tell you where I'm coming from. I often feel like one of the more "moderate" (leftist?) people in the context of these boards. Maybe I am, maybe not. I have often argued with people who said "why vote Republican instead of for a REAL conservative," because it would split the party. Bush is not perfect, but he's miles ahead of Kerry. Why cut off your nose to spite your face. Look how Nader helped Bush, not Gore.

Problem is, people feel very, very betrayed here. It's hard to talk about the judiciary without getting into the specifics of hot-button issues, but on topics like same-sex marriage and abortion on demand, people feel passionately that the voters acting through the legislature and not the courts should have the say. They gave their hard-earned money and worked their butts off to get to this point, and they see a monumental sell-out. They feel deceived and cheated.

Maybe the senators know more than we do. Maybe more can get done in the Senate now and Bush can still get his share of nominees. But in my heart I doubt it. The thousands of posts here since Monday demonstrate that people don't think the Republicans have the nerve to do what they were elected to do. Some have thrown in the towel.

I don't want to see a Hillary Clinton presidency, ever. Her positions and total lack of character make her terribly dangerous. But the Republicans have to be careful not to keep giving a big chunk of their base "half a loaf" or less. If we can't get the changes we want now, then when can we?

Building a third party is tremendously difficult. And it strengthens the opposition in the meantime. Ask a Perot voter. Or just ask Bush 41. Only one "third-party" candidate ever made it to the White House. In 1860.

I didn't mean to go off on you personally. I hope you are right. I am trying to hope for the best. I don't want to go off on a DU-type rant, but I have to be honest.

Just saw your post...

I think we agree on this issue. I understand why people feel they have been failed. In a sense they have. But the greater danger, I believe, is the split of the party. McCain is not the person most conservatives want as a president. His time to pay should come when and if he runs in 08 (at the primary level).

If he should be the nominee, which looks doubtful, but you never know, I would hope that people would chose him over the democrats that are being mentioned as potential candidates.

Oh well, rant over.