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Punish the Senate Filibuster Compromisers!
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| May 25, 2005
| William Greene
Posted on 05/25/2005 9:55:14 AM PDT by no dems
Punish the Senate Filibuster Compromisers!
I'm sure you've heard about the so-called "deal" put together by "moderate" Democrats and Republicans in the U.S. Senate, which will stop Sen. Frist from putting a halt to the Democrats' unconstitutional judicial filibusters but will allow a few of President Bush's nominees to be voted on and confirmed. Seven Republican turncoats shredded the Constitution by cutting a deal allowing a "super-MINORITY" of just 14 Senators to block or confirm any nominee. Real conservatives - hard-working, patriotic, Americans who love our Constitution and believe it should be upheld - are VERY ANGRY about this "deal".
In Rhode Island, we're targeting Sen. Lincoln Chafee for defeat in the Republican primary. Chafee has a likely conservative opponent: Cranston Mayor Stephen Laffey. In Maine: Sen. Olympia Snowe for defeat in the GOP primary. We've got a great candidate to support against her: State Representative Brian Duprey, a conservative Navy veteran and homeschooling father of five. Ohio: Sen. Mike DeWine for defeat. There are no declared candidates running against DeWine in the Republican primary -- so we're going into Ohio and working with conservative organizations to RECRUIT one who can WIN. Nebraska: Democrat Sen. Ben Nelson is targeted for defeat. Nebraska is a solid "red state" -- President Bush won the state with 66% of the vote in 2004, and Nelson squeaked by with just 51% of the vote in his last election. In West Virginia, we're targeting Democrat leader Sen. Robert Byrd for defeat. West Virginia is another good "red state" -- President Bush won the state with 56% of the vote in 2004 (a 100,000 vote margin), and Byrd's standing in the polls is at its lowest in years. Are you ANGRY about what these people did? Then HELP US throw the bums out of office.
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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; compromise; filiburster; filibuster
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To: aspiring.hillbilly
Yor wishing a man that served his country was killed by communists? Nice.
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posted on
05/25/2005 10:07:02 AM PDT
by
Tulane
To: Tulane
the Gipper Himself made plenty of comprimises. He never had a majority in both houses either
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posted on
05/25/2005 10:07:55 AM PDT
by
Cowman
(Just when you hit the bottom of the stupid hole you notice the guy next to you is digging)
To: Cowman
And neither may we in time...I disagreed with the comprimise, but it SHOULD NOT SPLIT THE PARTY...if it does, the Dems really did win.
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posted on
05/25/2005 10:09:06 AM PDT
by
Tulane
To: sandydipper
Watch out for McCain. He is 99% for McCain and 1% for us.
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Precisely!! But that makes him no different than 99% of the self-serving politicians in the Congress...they have not worked for this country for a long time. It is all about their own self-empowerment and the career that our laws permit them to make of serving in the Congress. Pray for term limits -- (just a dream, really.)
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posted on
05/25/2005 10:09:24 AM PDT
by
EagleUSA
To: Tulane
The big deal is the agreement is unconstitutional in that it tries to usurp the power of the president to appoint judicial nominees without consulting anyone before hand. The so called agreement is also non enforceble because only 14 peopel signed it out of 100 senators. Frist has said he doesn't recognize this agreement and the constitutional option is still on the table because Frist didn't sign on to this. This agreement is unspeakable arrogance on the part of the 7 RINOS and the dems because they are presupposing that their agreement overides the rest of the senates wishes.
Frist has said he will bring all nominees up for a vote and that the constitutional option is still on the table, he doesn't care what Reid and the RINOS have to say about it.
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posted on
05/25/2005 10:11:55 AM PDT
by
calex59
To: Tulane
No. I won't do that.
I may vote for a Constitution Party or Libertarian candidate, or I may just stay home.
No longer will I vote for the lesser of two evils, or vote against the liberal.
The Republican Party, as demonstrated by this Congress, lacks the b@lls to do what's right. They have earned the loss of my support. I am a conservative. I used to vote republican because they were conservatives too, or so it seems. They have revealed themselves to be only self-serving politicians. Screw 'em.
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posted on
05/25/2005 10:11:59 AM PDT
by
clee1
(We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
To: Coop
Let me help out here. 55 is less than 60
Let me help you out. They only needed 50 plus Chaney to change a two year old Senate Rule.
That was simply beyond the pale for our seven dearly beloved members of the chardonney and brie set.
What a glorious "victory for conservatism".
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posted on
05/25/2005 10:12:11 AM PDT
by
A Balrog of Morgoth
(With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
To: Tulane
I hope you are right!
Let me tell you where I'm coming from. I often feel like one of the more "moderate" (leftist?) people in the context of these boards. Maybe I am, maybe not. I have often argued with people who said "why vote Republican instead of for a REAL conservative," because it would split the party. Bush is not perfect, but he's miles ahead of Kerry. Why cut off your nose to spite your face. Look how Nader helped Bush, not Gore.
Problem is, people feel very, very betrayed here. It's hard to talk about the judiciary without getting into the specifics of hot-button issues, but on topics like same-sex marriage and abortion on demand, people feel passionately that the voters acting through the legislature and not the courts should have the say. They gave their hard-earned money and worked their butts off to get to this point, and they see a monumental sell-out. They feel deceived and cheated.
Maybe the senators know more than we do. Maybe more can get done in the Senate now and Bush can still get his share of nominees. But in my heart I doubt it. The thousands of posts here since Monday demonstrate that people don't think the Republicans have the nerve to do what they were elected to do. Some have thrown in the towel.
I don't want to see a Hillary Clinton presidency, ever. Her positions and total lack of character make her terribly dangerous. But the Republicans have to be careful not to keep giving a big chunk of their base "half a loaf" or less. If we can't get the changes we want now, then when can we?
Building a third party is tremendously difficult. And it strengthens the opposition in the meantime. Ask a Perot voter. Or just ask Bush 41. Only one "third-party" candidate ever made it to the White House. In 1860.
I didn't mean to go off on you personally. I hope you are right. I am trying to hope for the best. I don't want to go off on a DU-type rant, but I have to be honest.
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posted on
05/25/2005 10:15:12 AM PDT
by
cvq3842
To: A Balrog of Morgoth
And they chose not to use that move, amazingly without your permission.
Judge Owen is confirmed, in spite of your best efforts today.
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posted on
05/25/2005 10:15:18 AM PDT
by
Coop
(In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
To: no dems
"Americans who love our Constitution and believe it should be upheld - are VERY ANGRY about this "deal".
AND THAT'S PUTTING IT MILDLY!!!!
McCain should be horse-whipped! Maybe retribution will come in the form of unseating him from any public office.
To: no dems
Frist could right now strip the gang of 7 of all of their committee assignments, assign them new, smaller offices and never consider any of their legislation or pork.
If the people in their states re-elect them, so be it.
I want the gang of weasles punished now!
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posted on
05/25/2005 10:15:59 AM PDT
by
B.O. Plenty
(Liberalism and islam are terminal.......)
To: calex59
I hope Frist does put everyone up for a vote...I disagree that the comprimise is unconstitutional. Unwise...probably. Did I disagree with it...absolutley. Is it the end of the world? Come on. McCain should not be president, that is evident. But all this wailing and moaning and nashing of teeth is growing tiresome...we're starting to sound like a bunch of gosh darned liberals with all the whining.
This board needs to be bitch-slapped by Vito Corleone and told "YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!"
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posted on
05/25/2005 10:16:04 AM PDT
by
Tulane
To: B.O. Plenty
That would be a disastous move...there are many more battles where we will need their support.
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posted on
05/25/2005 10:16:47 AM PDT
by
Tulane
To: Tulane
Yep, mcCain was 99% for himself and 1% for America when he was serving time in a Vietnamese concentration camp. What a coward.
That is just about the lamest strawman in the room today.
You just made a wonderful argument for the election of George McGovern. Although you probably weren't aware of it.
Congratulations.
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posted on
05/25/2005 10:16:52 AM PDT
by
A Balrog of Morgoth
(With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
To: A Balrog of Morgoth
Strawman, shrawman...did he not serve his country? Should he be villified for one freaking political move? News flash, I doubt anyone agrees with the way their political candidates vote every time.
Hey, McCain blew it on this one. That doesn't make him the devil.
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posted on
05/25/2005 10:18:43 AM PDT
by
Tulane
To: A Balrog of Morgoth
The rabid left figured Bush was going down last year, that's what started the whole filibuster and judicial blocking now almost three years ago. The liberals plus the media party thought they could pull a "Vietnam on Bush".
Now that Bush won and the left has gone nuts, they don't know what to do but continue.
My take, Frist is going to shove the moderates to the wall and off the cliff. He is still the leader and does control the agenda. Revenge is his prerogative, they all want something, like their base to not be closed ;-). We'll see if Frist has the stones. In any event, I bet he blows up the deal which he is not bound by.
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posted on
05/25/2005 10:18:55 AM PDT
by
Tarpon
To: Tulane
I cannot honor McCain enough for his war service. I cannot imagine what he went through. I will leave it to others, maybe those who were there also, to critique his time in Vietnam.
But I can wholeheartedly salute him on that and still say he's a lousy senator and/or a lousy Republican.
We have to keep the issues separate. I am peeved also, but I didn't like seeing questions about his war record come up since Monday. if there's an equivalent of the Swifties to critique McCain, that's their right. i don't feel qualified to do that.
Keep 'em separate, folks, is my (unsolicited) advice.
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posted on
05/25/2005 10:19:42 AM PDT
by
cvq3842
To: aspiring.hillbilly; Tulane; Admin Moderator
You make Tulane's unfortunate foray into hyperbole look like the Gettysburg Address.
You were a hateful moron on the Wilbanks threads, and you're a hateful moron here.
Dang, I've never called another freeper a moron. You really are the bottom of the barrel.
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posted on
05/25/2005 10:20:52 AM PDT
by
A Balrog of Morgoth
(With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
To: no dems
I wouldn't advise investing much capital in the Rhode Island race. No conservative can win a statewide race there, barring some late-campaign scandal tarring the Democrat or the like.
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posted on
05/25/2005 10:21:10 AM PDT
by
pogo101
To: cvq3842
Good advice. Let's also keep the hyperbole to a minimum as well.
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posted on
05/25/2005 10:21:22 AM PDT
by
Tulane
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