Posted on 05/25/2005 7:41:53 AM PDT by Alex Marko
To day judge R. Paris ruled in the court case against Ayaan Hirsi Ali that she did not acted unlawfully when she talked about the Islam and Mohammed. A group of Muslims had started the trial to forbid her of speaking about the Islam, Mohammed and to forbid the sequel of submission. The judge said he has no indication that Hirsi Ali did grieve the Islamic people on purpose:
"[Hirsi Ali] chooses in her struggle against women suppression an maltreatment consciously for a method that stimulates debate about Islam reform"
But amazingly the judge also warned Hirsi Ali to be careful when she makes statements about the prophet. Hirsi Ali had in a newspaper interview said that according to our current norms and values the prophet was a "perverse tyrant" and a "pedophile". Judge Paris questions, "if it was needed to use these words".
"It looks like if [Hirsi Ali] with the use of these words has sought the limits of the permissible. The term pedophile has been chosen unfortunate because for that there would be the need of a pattern, although it is in the story an one time event".
Judge Paris said that she did not break the law when she said it, but that would be questionable if she would repeat saying it. The lawyer of the Muslims says that she has been warned and that she received a red ticket. But Hirsi Ali, later said on Radio 1 that the Dutch language is a rich language and she will find other words. I will use other words for the same event: "I still find it morally wrong". But she also said she has no intention to start bashing Islam or Mohammed.
The Muslims have appealed the case.
But there is more... But that is not all the news around Hirsi Ali today. Integration Minister Verdonk was special guest for the national tree-planting day. She could not go to the event and send Hirsi Ali as her replacement to the 49th national tree-planting day with the theme: "Sow Peace". Hirsi talked to the organization and they where very happy to receive her. She also looked forward to it, because it would be her first public appearance since the murder on Theo van Gogh.
But today burgomaster J.J.M. Som forbids her coming to his city. He declared he could not guarantee her safety: "I do not take that responsibility". But after some political fall-out, he now seems to deny that and says that the organization does not want her to come. He is not available for comments on the affair, because at this very moment he is having a birthday party. But Hirsi Ali says the organization was very positive about her coming.
It turns out, that of the 600 school children not all are local school children they also invited children of an Islamic school out of the city of Heerlen and from an Egyptian school from the city of Amsterdam. And the Egyptian ambassador is invited....
Sight. I think PeakTalk is right in saying he expects that Hirsi Ali will probably continue her career in the USA. He is not the first one to suggest this; friends of her already predicted an international career as well. Many liberal colleagues also want to get rid of her and she knows that. She could be leaving sooner then any one in The Netherlands expects.
On TV But Hirsi Ali revealed more in talk show "Barend en van dorp" (former football commentators who now do politics). For example that she is still waiting for normal housing. The civil servants of Donner want her first to sign a lengthy tennet contract. They say they want to do this right because otherwise they could get troubles in the future, for giving her to luxurious housing for to little money. If Hirsi Ali does not sign the contract, she does not get normal housing. Does a bit sound like extortion doesn't it?
At this moment she still is moved around the country and often does not know where she will sleep that night. She also cannot receive friends where she stays. Even when they forced her to go into hiding in the USA, they did not allow her friends to visit her, because that was deemed to dangerous.
When the talk show hosts ask how it is to live like that, with all those dead threats. She says, it is like being diagnosed as having a terminal disease and the doctor tells you that he does not know how long you have. And when asked about the future she says: "you have to make the best of life while you live".
But she was also the liberal politician. She ignored questions about former liberal (VVD) leader Hans Wiegel who wants to take the leadership of the party and who wants her out. But did talk about Wilders - declaration of independence. As a real liberal (VVD) she ridiculed it, as not being constructive and realistic.
Although she agrees with Wilders, that no Islamic schools should be allowed to be founded in The Netherlands. By this she seems to be positioned as the Muslim critical voice of the liberal party that can keep liberal voters in the party that do not feel comfortable with the rest of Wilders his capitalistic free market ideas, that many deride as extreme. She could be the lifeline of the liberal party.
http://www.ewtn.com/library/HOMELIBR/HERESY4.TXT
As true today as it was when Belloc wrote it. Indeed, the cautions Belloc gave are coming to pass.
Thats a waste of money.. find printings of it online, print one page of it... make copies of that page... pee on it when doing your business in a public restroom (but wear gloves when handling it God forbid they try to pull prints), then leave it in a visible manner like in the sink by the mirror.
Drive the ragheads crazy and drag em' by the shorthairs!
"Dutch Judge: Mohammed isn't a pedophile"
Given the fact that the Prophet assumed room temperature long ago, perhaps the judge should have said "Mohammed wasn't a pedophile".
And, given the multi-cultural perspective of the judge, consummating a marriage with a nine year old isn't hard evidence of pedophilia. Just a case of a Muslim being a Muslim.
Can't we just all understand each other? >/sarc off
I agree. If the vigor liberal scholars used to uncover what they believe is the "historic Jesus" were applied to Mohammed I think the world would be truly shocked by the reality of Mohammed's life. Right now Western scholars seem to like Islam because they loath their own cultural roots and that clouds their honesty when dealing with him.
When dealing with Islamists, it is well to remember the children's cautionary tale about giving a moose (for us in Alaska) a cookie. Then he'll demand some milk to go with it. Then he's sleepy and demands a bed, and it goes on from there in like manner. Take a lesson from predicament the Europeans find themselves in. I don't think they even understand how it is they got where they are, but they are being dictated to by the Islamists. Once you start caving, it will never stop. Gotta push back - harder.
Yeah. The article is most certainly translated from Dutch. Tricky thing, translating.
Is someone who has gay sex once a "homosexual"?
The act sort of confirms it.
Well Islam is specifically an antiChristian religion (of an antiChrist) because it denies the divinity of Jesus, denies His crucifixtion, and His resurrection. Unlike other religions, it spefically acknowledges the existence of Jesus. Islam leads the flock astray.
Islam is also specifically antiSemetic (in the 19th century meaning of that word, anti-Jewish).
I'm not sure what you mean by "19th century meaning", but Mohammad himself was pretty vicious in his hatred for the jewish people.
As the quran goes on and on, it get more and more hateful towards the jewish people.
See what he did to the jewish tribe (called the Banu Qurayza).
Every male of puberty and above was beheaded, and the women were sold into slavery or ransomed (to whom is unclear).
The year was around 625.
If thats not anti-semetism, then what it is?
AAAAAA-MEN! That's one regulation we Americans can definitely do without!
Thanks, I've been recommending THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD since I joined FR, wish everyone would read it, written by Edward Canon Sell, a Fellow of the University of Madrass, published in 1913...before OIL, before PC!
Numerous sources quoted are in the original arabic and translation.
Click Fred Nerks on tagline for link on bio page.
The term "antisemitism" was coined in the 19th century. Some will claim that by heritage that arabs "can't" be antisemetic.
The original definition of the term made it clear that it referred to Jews.
The left wanted Uncle Same out of their bedrooms but wanted him to enter their bathrooms.
Mohammed was a pedophile, a child rapist.
He had his henchmen thugs force a little 6 year old girl named Aisha off her swing set and abducted her into his house, where he had "marraige ceremony". According to the Koran, 54 year old Mohammed "married" this toddler and began raping her at the age of 9 years old. Old times or new times matters not. A child rapist is a pedophile and rapist. Fifty-four year old Mohammed was a sick pervert and old enough to have been the girl's Great Grandfather.
Mohammed was a sexual deviate, a pathetic pervert who today in the United States in every State of America, if he had committed this gruesome years-long series of forced rapes, imprisonment and molestation of a preteen child, he would have been found guilty of felony child rape, molestation and this illiterate sex-offender would have either been imprisoned for life or executed as a monster he was.
Of course, his repeated rapes of little Aisha (which the Dutch Judge inaccurately referred to as a "one time occurrence") occurred over the last years of his life. The rapes occurred in a time when all men near Mohammed feared him, for he killed anyone who refused his advances, men or women. Since Mohammed was a mass murderer, often killing everyone in small towns, all Jews and Christians, cut off the heads and hands of women, children and babies, the mass murderer Mohammed would have had little opportunity to commit further child rapes, as he would have been hunted down like the vicious punk dog he was...and with thousands of bare dirty feet stomping on him, he would have been executed to prevent more of his Satanic harm to befall the world.
He was a false prophet, a pathelogical liar, a plagiarist of Biblical scripture (calling it his own authorship), and of course a sexist cretin who after he got the 'hots' for his own son's wife...whom he then "married"...he established clearly that he was no 'Messenger of God', for obviously he was the very Disciple of Satan that Jesus that could do no good, only ruinous harm.
The Dutch Judge was wrong and he was gutless. He is only forestalling the inevitable face-off between civilization and Islam...the cult of hate, the Mohammed-submitting pedophile's demigod of ad libidum sexual perversion.
Mohammed was a sex offender, child rapist and mass murderer.
Mohammed was a pedophile, a child rapist.
He had his henchmen thugs force a little 6 year old girl named Aisha off her swing set and abducted her into his house, where he had "marraige ceremony". According to the Koran, 54 year old Mohammed "married" this toddler and began raping her at the age of 9 years old. Old times or new times matters not. A child rapist is a pedophile and rapist. Fifty-four year old Mohammed was a sick pervert and old enough to have been the girl's Great Grandfather.
Mohammed was a sexual deviate, a pathetic pervert who today in the United States in every State of America, if he had committed this gruesome years-long series of forced rapes, imprisonment and molestation of a preteen child, he would have been found guilty of felony child rape, molestation and this illiterate sex-offender would have either been imprisoned for life or executed as a monster he was.
Of course, his repeated rapes of little Aisha (which the Dutch Judge inaccurately referred to as a "one time occurrence") occurred over the last years of his life. The rapes occurred in a time when all men near Mohammed feared him, for he killed anyone who refused his advances, men or women. Since Mohammed was a mass murderer, often killing everyone in small towns, all Jews and Christians, cut off the heads and hands of women, children and babies, the mass murderer Mohammed would have had little opportunity to commit further child rapes, as he would have been hunted down like the vicious punk dog he was...and with thousands of bare dirty feet stomping on him, he would have been executed to prevent more of his Satanic harm to befall the world.
He was a false prophet, a pathelogical liar, a plagiarist of Biblical scripture (calling it his own authorship), and of course a sexist cretin who after he got the 'hots' for his own son's wife...whom he then "married"...he established clearly that he was no 'Messenger of God', for obviously he was the very Disciple of Satan that could do no good, only bloody, sexual, suppressive and catastrophic harm.
The Dutch Judge was wrong and he was gutless. He is only forestalling the inevitable face-off between civilization and Islam...the cult of hate, the Mohammed-submitting pedophile's demigod of ad libidum sexual perversion.
Mohammed was a sex offender, child rapist and mass murderer.
A Frenchman, whadya expect?!
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