Posted on 05/25/2005 4:09:07 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
He knows on which side of his bread is buttered. The Rinos will pay next election - (I'm willing to use vacation time from work and travel to campaign against them, and I'm not alone).
Your post makes no sense at all.
No - you say you're willing to do stuff like that. But like most good conservatives you'll gripe around the water cooler but not show up when it's time to actually do something.
Let's not forget that the Dems and the RINOs just tried to change the Constitution by "suggesting" that the President "consult" with the Dems before nominating any more court nominees.
You keep saying "if the Democrats break their word" then the RINOs will be forced to concede... but as long as they let the 3 named nominees through, they'll claim they kept their word, even if they filibuster every other nominee. The phrasing of the deal is vague enough that they'll actually convince plenty of people of that. Hell, even many Republicans believe it reads that way.
Sure, we'll get to make our case too. And the Dems, as usual, will have the MSM on their side. Republicans will be painted as the deal-breakers if they go for the Byrd option again, and McCain will play it that he has to vote no on any rule change because of his presidential aspirations. Just watch.
Qwinn
you hit upon an important point. As much as we rant against the Rinos and Dems, it is our leadership that has failed. Frist and Bush in short order should face reality and accept that this Repubic is being destroyed by Socialists. The only rational response would be to defeat and humiliate the Dems at every turn on every single issue. Our side needs to be utterly brutal to the Dems (figuratively speaking.)
SHEESH! This is started to remind me of the time when Merv Griffin claimed victory in the purchase of some resort hotel from Donald Trump. It wasn't until months later that Griffin found out that he actually got snookered by Trump. Or should I say, "trumped" by Trump.
I heard Frist last week, his words don't mean anything now.
Nope.
Another thing - you keep talking about the 3 named nominees being held up as "the standard" for what doesn't constitute "extraordinary". There's nothing in the deal that even implies that. You assert that they'll be forced to accept anyone to the left of Owens/Brown/Pryor - and I'm telling you they'll filibuster anyone to the right of Myers/Saad.
Qwinn
Stick out 'yer tongue junior... I 'gotta frozen flag-pole with 'yer name on it!
That's a fairly foolish comment since Frist had no part in this deal. But you've got plenty of company.
BINGO! And I don't think the votes were there this time to pass the "nuclear option" (I don't like that term). However, IF the Democrats break their word (good probability) in the future, then the "nuclear option" will definitely pass.
No it's not a foolish comment he was de-nutted by the seven moderates. The seven now love the media adoration they are getting.
If/When that happens the Senate (with support of currently recalcitrant RINOS) will easily vote to end the judicial filibuster.
Now we got the double secret plan in place. The democrat heads were on the block and the seven let them up.
Hogwash, see tagline. Compromising when you don't have to is cowardice. You see, these senate neuticles don't fear Bush like they would have feared Reagan. They caved, period.
Keep on drinking that Kool-Aid PJ!!!
I know you are wrong (but hope you are right).
McCain and the rest of his gang of thugs have IGNORED the party platform, which called for an end to the filibuster of judicial nominees. This deal gives the RATs the upper hand in all future debates regarding the filibuster as it "proves" to the public that:
1. it was RIGHT to filibuster these 10 nominees
2. it is constitutionally acceptable to do so
3. the EXTREME Radical Right Wing was WRONG to challange "long standing Senate Tradition"
4. the Democrats are a party of principle and the Republicans a party of necessity.
THAT is how the public will perceive this. If McCain & Co later claim that what was allowable now, is somehow not allowed in the future, they will have a hard time selling this to the people. The have basically given thier approval to all that which the Dims have been claiming regarding the filibuster.
This is, in no way, a victory for conservatives. McCain & Co. have effectively joined the Rats, but retain, for now, thier sheep's clothing (the sheep have more money!) The Republican control of the Senate is an illusion - in the Senate, we are the MINNO (Majority iN Name Only)!
BILL FRIST IS THE MAJORITY LEADER> That is his title.
This is a CULTURE war and Bill Frist let his troops surrender and his excuse is he can't control his toops and is not bound by what they do.
Consider this as if it were real.
Several Generals under Eisenhower are claiming a great victory over the enemy. Just hours before Ike was to launch the D DAy invasion a group of his generals have negotiated a deal with the German Government. In Return for Germany dropping plans to attack England, Scotland, Wales but not Ireland, the allies have agreed to let the German Government retain total control of Germany. Germany also will still occupy but not control France and Poland.
In adddition Germany agrees to give up all claims to Africa and to only kill those Jews that are extremists.
The German Government also agreed to not sink any alllied ships with submarines unless they were carrying things Germany does not like.
Many in the media are claiming this a great allied victory. It is said to have averted nearly 50 thousand deaths that would have occured during the D Day invasion.
Eisenhower said he was not part of the agreement and reserved the right to invade nomandy if the Germans ever do anything nasty.
Inquiring minds would like to know...why is this NOT Lucy and the football...????
That post is excellent!
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