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To: liberty2004
Basically this deal was set up to make the Democrats and RINOs "feel good" but the REALITY is that the standard has been set with the 3 judicial appointments now going through. The Democrats can in the future claim that a judicial nominee as conservative as those 3 are unusual and break the deal. Result? The vote to end judicial filibuster will be passed and Bush will get his nominees. Think ahead a few moves. Also those claiming the RINOs would still oppose ending judicial filibusters in the future. That equation has changed. At least 3 of them would support ending filibuster because of the Democrats breaking their word.

SHEESH! This is started to remind me of the time when Merv Griffin claimed victory in the purchase of some resort hotel from Donald Trump. It wasn't until months later that Griffin found out that he actually got snookered by Trump. Or should I say, "trumped" by Trump.

46 posted on 05/25/2005 4:42:41 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: PJ-Comix

Another thing - you keep talking about the 3 named nominees being held up as "the standard" for what doesn't constitute "extraordinary". There's nothing in the deal that even implies that. You assert that they'll be forced to accept anyone to the left of Owens/Brown/Pryor - and I'm telling you they'll filibuster anyone to the right of Myers/Saad.

Qwinn


49 posted on 05/25/2005 4:44:45 AM PDT by Qwinn
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To: PJ-Comix
SHEESH! This is started to remind me of the time when Merv Griffin claimed victory in the purchase of some resort hotel from Donald Trump. It wasn't until months later that Griffin found out that he actually got snookered by Trump. Or should I say, "trumped" by Trump.

At least Griffin ended up with a nice hotel. And he got taken by a master.

So the RINOs probably wouldn't have voted to end the fillibuster without the deal? So what? I think that some of them would not have been able to vote against stopping the fillibusters, if it wasn't for this cute little figleaf covenent of their's.

Again, how is it a victory for conservatives? These people they were fillibustering weren't exactly Michael Savage and Jerry Falwell.

With a 55-45 GOP advantage in the Senate, is it too much to ask that when a GOP President sends up nominees that are found qualified by the fricken ABA, that they receive the courtesy of a vote on the Senate floor?

Neville Chamberlain comes back with the names of three nominees, and we should rejoice?

It's a victory because the next time they try to filibuster a nominee....yada yada yada. So, who the heck is going to be willing to accept a nomination?

It's a defeat. Maybe we come out ahead in the long run. Maybe the Donks really will overreach that badly, and the seven will return to the fold. Maybe a couple of those Donks who were with the RINO seven do have honor. We'll see.

I know one thing. All this talk about the big tent the last five years has basically got us three nominees. And that's it. Good to know that RINOS will always be with us...at least every six years when it's time for us to break out the checkbooks for their re-election campaigns.
74 posted on 05/25/2005 5:03:54 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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