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To: Dimensio; Alamo-Girl

You described the shutdown. You didn't describe "what left."

Also, the analogy does hold. An extremely complex system doesn't just happen. Suggestions that reproduction gets us out of the dilemma simply ignores that the extremely complex biological system includes an extremely complex reproductive system. It's like saying that because the car comes from a factory that makes cars then it could have made itself, or that because it includes a repair code system within its computer memory, then that means it ACTUALLY COULD have made itself."

C'mon now. :>)


949 posted on 05/26/2005 3:12:49 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
You described the shutdown. You didn't describe "what left."

Nothing really "left". The same elements are all still there, it's just that the chemical reactions that made the cells "alive" have ceased. Once this happens, the cells quickly start to decay, but there's no supernatural transformation.

An extremely complex system doesn't just happen.

You're right, but no one suggests that it "just happened". This is a creationist strawman.

Suggestions that reproduction gets us out of the dilemma simply ignores that the extremely complex biological system includes an extremely complex reproductive system.

Which earlier generations of life forms didn't have. No one suggests that sexual reproduction just spontaneously occured.

Ultimately your argument is one from incredulity. You don't understand how it could have come about, so rather than research the given explanations, you throw up your hands and say "It must have been designed!" That isn't science.
951 posted on 05/26/2005 3:19:34 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: xzins
Also, the analogy does hold. An extremely complex system doesn't just happen.

Many do, actually.

Suggestions that reproduction gets us out of the dilemma simply ignores that the extremely complex biological system includes an extremely complex reproductive system.

So start with a simpler one. Duh.

It's like saying that because the car comes from a factory that makes cars then it could have made itself,

It's nothing at all like saying that. You obviously don't understand the position you're (poorly) attempting to critique.

or that because it includes a repair code system within its computer memory, then that means it ACTUALLY COULD have made itself."

Again, no.

959 posted on 05/26/2005 3:29:11 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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