Both great leaders!
Posted on 05/24/2005 3:36:16 PM PDT by CHARLITE
Former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan had no kind words for Sen. John McCain this morning on the Don Imus radio program.
Buchanan said that Bill Frist had the votes to override the filibuster, but that McCain, with his "deal," in essence supported the Democratic filibuster and took the leadership of the Senate away from Frist.
Buchanan told Imus that with a change in the rules, President Bush's judicial nominees would have sailed through the Senate, that any Supreme Court nominees would sail through the Senate, and that "the great battle for the supreme Court was about to be won today" – except for the efforts of the "McCain Seven," who, Buchanan believes, have sold out the positions of the president, Sen. Frist and the entire base of the Republican Party.
That's quite a lot to heap on the shoulders of those seven Republican senators (Snowe, DeWine, Warner, Collins, McCain, Chafee and Graham) who cut this deal with the Democrats – but Buchanan isn't convinced the deal has to go through.
He told Imus, "If I were Senators Allen and Frist, I would say, 'Senator McCain, you've cut your deal with the Democrats and that's fine, but you haven't cut any deal on our behalf.
"'We've got seven judges here, and we're going to vote them all out of committee, and we're going to bring them to the floor [of the Senate], and every one of them is going to get an up-or-down vote.
"'If the Democrats filibuster, we're going to try to invoke cloture, and you can vote with Harry Reid and Ted Kennedy if you want - all four times.'"
This would present a problem for McCain and his ambitions. Buchanan added, "If they do that, McCain will then be forced either to go with the Republicans, and vote to break the filibuster ... or he votes with the Democrats, in which case he will cut his own throat, repeatedly, in his desire to be the Republican nominee [for president].
"Frist and Allen and the others are in the catbird seat, as long as they've got the nerve to stand up and say these fellas have cut the deal, it's nice to have the three judges, but we do not accept the deal that denies us [the other] four."
In other words, Frist and the others have to stand up for not only the Republican Party but also for Frist’s own leadership.
"If they don't do it, they're in effect ceding the decisive leadership in the Senate – Frist would be ceding it to McCain," Buchanan said.
But the issue is not simply about one or two judges, according to Buchanan. It's about the tyranny of the Supreme Court over the last half century.
"This is about the U.S. Supreme Court. The Republicans have to break that filibuster because ... the Supreme Court's been conducting a social revolution in this country for 50 years, and Bush has a long-shot chance of bringing down the curtain on it – and you should not give up that for some idea of non-partisanship in the U.S. Senate," he said.
Buchanan surmised that Bush needs to appoint three Supreme Court justices to override the liberal bias of the court, and "take it out of being a judicial dictatorship and judicial tyranny and restore it to constitutionalism."
Imus then asked what McCain and the others might be motivated by in making this deal.
"McCain gets big media that says 'John McCain is the man of the hour,' then he gets the Democrats coming around saying 'McCain saved things, he's a moderate, he's a man of the middle,'" Buchanan answered, "but he's done it at the expense of Frist and the Republican Party."
Thanks for the PING!
I've already made that latter decision. Just as the Democratic Party left Reagan, the Pubbies have left me. The old "Fool me once . . ." routine applies here.
You confused the heck out of me, and then I realized that you were responding to Post #2, not mine. LOL.
Too bad the GOP and the Justice Department lack the spine to go after Planned Parenthood, NOW, NARAL and their ilk declared as corrupt organizations under RICO. Nothing would make me happier than to see the board members, officers, employees -- and those who've benefitted from their donations! -- marched off to prison with total forfeiture of all current and future assets. This approach would serve to right many of the wrongs that ail us. It would put most DemonRATs and their supporters in prison (yaaaay!!!) and it would clean-out of our deeply corrupted political, media and educational hierarchies.
I would never trust a guy whose "principles" only come to the surface when he's decided to: 1) retire from politics, and 2) write a book.
Who is our strong man?
James Inhofe from OK gets my vote. He plays to win. Remember when he ordered up tax returns of all the pink-green enviros who were opposing his attempts to gain approval for Clear Skies? That's a great example of the sort of muscular conservatism that brings people to the polls. In contrast, last night's capitulation was a Symphony in Wimpdom, the very thing that turns off potential conservative voters.
If we put forth more guys and gals like Inhofe who take principled stands, and who are willing to saw off Marxists at the knees Marxists, we will win election after election.
Both great leaders!
Not me.....they can both go to hell
In a race between Lieberman and McCain -
Lieberman would be more conservative and trustworthy as President -
Joe Lieberman is rock solid on our WOT and it is not only because he is Jewish and supports Israel -
Lieberman may have deserted his beliefs in 2000 to run for VP -
But he was loyal to the democrat party -
Unlike Crazy McCain who stabs Republicans in the back every time he can -
I need to read up on that FR post last night that said McCain bombed his own carrier and killed over 100 sailors - (I have not heard that before - I am not vouching for it's credibility but I am going to look into it!)
I know he managed to crash his fighter in the dangerous Gulf of Mexico!
Ol' "Kick the Tires and Light the Fires" McCain he was known as -
Ego, envy, jealosy, greed, insanity - McCain's got it all!
John McCain - The real Manchurian Candidate
Someone there's a market sign saying 'spines for sale' and maybe 'rocky mountain oysters'. I'd advise buying a lot of those since republican oysters are pretty darn small.
Pat Buchannon was right on every point.
These seven betrayed their party. They can vote like a RAT if they wanted to on the actual vote, but theier "deal" was a betrayal of the President and Frist.
Frist is no longer the leader of the Republcian Senate. There is no leader, Frist has no control and the traitors stabbed Frist in the back.
How terminal is his skin cancer? Just wondering.
Huge mistake. Which goes back to his lack of political experience.
Pretty stupid comment. The deal is between 14 senators. It purports to bind noone else. When you hold the balance of power, you don't need anybody else. Got that Pat?
We'll know about the true grit of Frist in the next few days. I know one thing, he'd better fight like hell for the conservatives who elected him and his damned party or he'll be thrown out along with yesterday's bath water too!
Sign me SOTS!
“Frist does NOT have enough experience along with a lack of back bone. He is a disaster. Hopefully, he is a better doctor than politican.”
I don’t believe so. Frist can only be a very mediocre doctor if he also decided to become a politician because medicine, as a whole, is a respected profession with bright professionals while a political career is filled with self-serving, cheating, lying, not very bright scumbags. Frist is comfortable with the latter.
Excuse me, but didn't you notice that 7 so-called GOP Senators hijacked the Constitutional Option? Did you not get that, Torie?
...but I sure as hell wouldn't want someone like Zell Miller -- let alone 50 of them -- serving as "leaders" in my political party...
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..then you must be a staunch liberal, afraid of strong conservative politicians. Nice try to denegrate Miller -- but that is just not possible. His actions define what he is, just like the actions of liberals precisely define what they are....
Wow, Frist may be on the hot seat, but that was a very unfair analogy. Unless you can speak for his skills, or lack there of as a physician, you need to cool it.
I don't put credence in Pat Buchanan. But has he nailed it?
Say what you want about Buchanon, but he is "consistant". If he were in the senate, he wouldn't be part of the "malignant seven".
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