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What the ‘Average Joe’ Can Do About Porn…and Why - (caution; for adult readers only)
CONCERNED WOMEN FOR AMERICA.ORG ^ | MAY 24, 2005 | SARA BRODE

Posted on 05/24/2005 1:42:28 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: Skooz; Bella_Bru
"You spend much time spewing venom at your only ally."

Amazingly ironic, ain't it?

321 posted on 05/24/2005 3:58:15 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

rofl.
great.


322 posted on 05/24/2005 3:58:50 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (The minutemen are 'vigilantes' doncha know?)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
That is a reasonable argument, and it has almost nothing to do with evaluating the indulgence of porn,* but rather with assessing the real-world production of porn. My response would be that measures should be taken to 'clean up' the porn industry as much as possible. It wouldn't be that difficult to do (of course you could not eliminate all such problems), but isn't done because society wants to keep it in the shadows. In order to directly confront such issues, you must bring them into the light of day, and 'we' don't want to do that. That was clearly the case last year when a handful of adult performers contracted HIV. There was a brief flurry of talk about regulation, then it all vanished into the shadows again with hardly any notice.

There is another argument as well along the lines of: were it not for broken girls and dissolute men porn would not get made. Perhaps that is true to some extent (of the 'hard-core' stuff) but that's neither here nor there. The underlying topics you raise should be confronted for what they are, and porn can then become whatever it will be to whatever extent they are resolved.

A lot of this ties back into what I said earlier about our unhealthy social regard of sexuality, in tandem with some unrelated or indirectly related social ills. The basic point that I am making is that graphic erotic imagery is not the problem; other social ills that intersect with that are the problem. And I don't condemn sex for what it is, nor do I classify it in some vague, shady sphere apart from the rest of human life. I think most of the problems with sex arise from that type of attitude.

* Except in the most tangential sense of: 'if you have sympathy for the participants, you won't patronize the product' or something along those lines. Arguable in itself.

323 posted on 05/24/2005 3:59:21 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Andrew LB

You didn't answer the question


324 posted on 05/24/2005 4:00:53 PM PDT by WKB (You can half the good and double the bad people say about themselves.)
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To: Bella_Bru; Skooz
"i have no quarrel with Christians who leave Jews alone and do not actively attempt to exterminate Judaism by trying to convert Jews."

Note the language and reference to Nazism.

It's crystal clear whom you regard as your mortal enemy.

Very sad.

325 posted on 05/24/2005 4:00:56 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
next time you're watching a porn video, look for the blue prison ink. It's a dead giveaway

Whoa, whoa, whoa.....I have a lot of blue ink on my body and I've never even been in jail, let alone in prison. You have no idea what you're talking about here. Most people I know with ink have blue ink. It's a toss up between green and blue as to which is the most common outline color.

326 posted on 05/24/2005 4:01:26 PM PDT by Melas
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To: conserv13

Do you watch it with your children and grandchildren?
Of course not.



Why not?


327 posted on 05/24/2005 4:01:57 PM PDT by WKB (You can half the good and double the bad people say about themselves.)
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To: Strategerist

I love this idea that anyone who vomits at the ideas of what homos do is somehow "repressed" homosexual. It works with your recruitment of pre-teen boys, but give it a rest. We despise not only what they do among each other, but the fact that they want to push the rest of societies face into their sickening lifestyle.

You must be one to throw that lame argument at those of us who vomit at your actions with each other.


328 posted on 05/24/2005 4:02:28 PM PDT by TrailofTears ( Only a fool thinks we can squander freedom in a phony exchange for safety without becoming slaves.)
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To: F16Fighter
Very sad.

Homosexual and other porn addictions (deviancy in flavours) is very sad and is a poison in our culture and country.

329 posted on 05/24/2005 4:03:09 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: chris1
For your info - I compete in bobybuilding, am in tip top physical shape.

Oh, please. You're making me swoon.

I am talking to you about what goes on in a normal guys head.

You're talking about what goes on in your porn-addled head. Try not to drag every other man down with you.

If you think a guy really wants to hear about how his mother is not nice enough to his wife, someone is lying to you terribly.

And if you think your poor listening skills or lack of response to her feelings don't matter, than either you are lying to yourself or someone else is lying to you terribly.

330 posted on 05/24/2005 4:03:14 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: King Prout

religious delusions of self righteousness and moral superiority are MORE addictive than any substance known to makind.

people will kill for it.
see islamic fundamentalism...


331 posted on 05/24/2005 4:04:07 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (The minutemen are 'vigilantes' doncha know?)
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To: WKB
Why not?

Addicts don't like to share their drug if it means less for them.

Addicts like to share and seduce if it brings them more of their drug.

332 posted on 05/24/2005 4:04:22 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: F16Fighter
So it's a matter of semantics? It's true though. What else do you call the end of one faith?

So let's couch it in terms unoffensive to your Victorian sensibilities. You wish to see all Jews come to Jesus and forgret their Judaism. Make you happy? It's the same thing, with different words as saying the extermination of Judaism.

333 posted on 05/24/2005 4:04:26 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (In Mercuristan, such questions are not tolerated.)
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To: GipperGal
Oh, please. You're making me swoon.

Some FReepers are the best. :-)

334 posted on 05/24/2005 4:04:38 PM PDT by k2blader ("A kingdom of conscience ... That is what lies at the end of Crusade.")
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To: judgeandjury; chris1
Whoa! A woman's psychological need for sex isn't as strong as a man's is.

Well there's definitely something wrong with me then. And for the guys out there saying they need porn because the wife isn't interested. That can be a two way street. Why do you think all those soft porn romance novels are such big sellers? Why do you think Desperate Housewives and Sex in the City are so popular? Because of the men? And guess what? Women do watch and read other porn too.

335 posted on 05/24/2005 4:05:14 PM PDT by unbalanced but fair
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

PS. And I am not agreeing that your characterization applies universally to the adult industry, but that it does to enough of an extent that it should be considered. In many cases that is more the perception than the reality. By example, the Canadian girl who contracted HIV seemed to be pretty content with her job when leaving that aside (and she evidently made pretty hard-core films), at least in the interview of her I read at that time.

My main thought in that regard is that I think it is unfortunate for the people involved to the extent that it limits their future options in life (career, family, etc). Then again, I think that that's what pays their bills, and it's better than selling themselves on the street or running drugs. We don't live in a perfect world. You know that!


336 posted on 05/24/2005 4:06:17 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: af_vet_1981

Addicts don't like to share their drug if it means less for them.

Addicts like to share and seduce if it brings them more of their drug




Thanks for good clear answer!!


337 posted on 05/24/2005 4:06:50 PM PDT by WKB (You can half the good and double the bad people say about themselves.)
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To: Netizen
This comment has been made a couple of times. My thought is this. Porn is for arousal. Whether the person prefers children or adults, ANY PORN WILL DO. If they prefer children, but can't get any child porn, I have a hunch that adult porn will suffice. jmho

I'm inclined to doubt it. I haven't looked at porn with any kind of lustful intention in decades now, but I can say with certainty that beautiful women were not optional. Really, that's what the whole appeal was: Beautiful naked women. Gay porn for example wouldn't have done anything for my youthful libido.

338 posted on 05/24/2005 4:07:26 PM PDT by Melas
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To: CHARLITE

Does this mean that if I like owning a small handgun that eventually I'll want more and more until I want to own howitzers then move on up to owning my own fleet of battleships?


339 posted on 05/24/2005 4:08:06 PM PDT by BigBobCA
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To: Melas

Or, he told Dobson the truth.

Why lie on death row?

Bundy didn't pin his predilection on pornography; he pinned it on, specifically, VIOLENT pornography. Which goes along with the "addiction view" that some need more and more thrills once they become numb to a certain level of violence. Rape being a combination of lust and power...


340 posted on 05/24/2005 4:08:23 PM PDT by Nabber
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