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Allen Fallout
Beltway Buzz (NRO) ^ | 05/24/05 | Eric Pfeiffer

Posted on 05/24/2005 7:19:20 AM PDT by GWB00

If there’s one Republican I see a benefit for after the filibuster compromise, it is George Allen. Allen has spoken forcefully on the issue, and beat Frist to the punch in calling for a vote on filibusters sooner rather than later. Though Allen was not seen as one of the major players on this issue, he has also been an unusually strong advocate for confirming John Bolton without delay. There is a growing sentiment from Beltway Buzz readers and many in the conservative movement that Allen is showing more leadership qualities in the Senate than the actual Majority Leader.

Like Frist, voters will judge how Allen responds to the compromise and what moves he makes in ensuring confirmation for Bush’s future nominees. In the meantime, Allen has shown himself to possess the style of leadership most voters look for in their presidential nominees. It’s far too early to make broad proclamations, but never too early to note progress.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 109th; allen2008; filibuster; filibusters; georgeallen
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To: Dane

Doesn't matter - that will never come up.

Liberals will force Allen to admit that Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson were good men (which they were). Once he says that, he will be branded a racist forever.

Don't you know that all Southerners were racist and Northerners were wise, abolitionists during the Civil War?


21 posted on 05/24/2005 7:43:16 AM PDT by GianniV
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To: GianniV
Allen had a cameo appearance as a Conferedate General in the movie 'Gods and Generals.'

So did Ted Turner and Ed Markey (D-Mass). And Sheets Byrd was in Gettysburg.

That won't be an issue.

22 posted on 05/24/2005 7:44:10 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/wardsmythe)
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To: EDINVA; iceskater; xyz123; Mudboy Slim; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; GeorgeW23225; ...

George Allen ping.


23 posted on 05/24/2005 7:45:45 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/wardsmythe)
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To: Pondman88

I like George Allen, Jr. also, seems to have gotten a strong sense of Right and Wrong as well as leadership from his dad, IMO, a Principled Leader, not common in an NFL coach.


24 posted on 05/24/2005 7:45:57 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero.)
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To: GianniV
Allen had a cameo appearance as a Conferedate General in the movie 'Gods and Generals.' He will NEVER be able to run and/or win because of it; Democrats will play the clip over and over again and ask, "Do we need a racist confederate in the White House?"

Hahaha, all the Republicans have to do is show Robert KKK Byrd doing the same thing. It's a non-issue.

25 posted on 05/24/2005 7:46:19 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (The 'right to choose' = The right to choose death --for somebody else.)
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To: GWB00

Allen is the only Rep who comes out of this looking really good...not at all surprising to me. He's on with Laura right now and sounding like a real leader. He's so impressive and with Condi as his VP...it's not even close! I've been calling this for months now and Allen is just helping me realize my choice is a really good one. I'm trying to remember one thing...we've been through so much and so many ups and downs but come out winning at the ballot box...I'm hanging in there. Allen is more brilliant as I type this message...Staying Positive!


26 posted on 05/24/2005 7:46:22 AM PDT by TatieBug
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To: GianniV; Dane
Liberals will force Allen to admit that Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson were good men (which they were). Once he says that, he will be branded a racist forever.

1. It's been tried and didn't stick.

2. Allen knows his history far too well do get caught in that trap.

27 posted on 05/24/2005 7:47:17 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/wardsmythe)
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To: spectre
"So what's his take on Illegal Immigration?"

He is one of the few Politicians with the Gonads to tell it like it is. Don't have all the threads but try a search on here for Allen. One of the few Politicians I would actually actively campaign for.

28 posted on 05/24/2005 7:51:17 AM PDT by JustAnAmerican (Being Independent means never having to say you're Partisan)
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To: GWB00

If George Allen runs he will win. If he runs with Mike Steele he'll crush anybody the evil donkey puts up and help us grab more seats in both chambers. mcpain (media) Az and Frist are toast. If hair-gel from Neb. thinks he's in fat city because he took no stand, he's wrong too.


29 posted on 05/24/2005 7:53:10 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Dealing with liberals? Remember: when you wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and he loves it.)
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To: spectre

2008 Contender Senator George Allen's Comments On Illegal Immigration

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1395383/posts

Radio Hosts, Citizens Flood Washington on Immigration (George Allen On Illegal Immigration)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1404954/posts

A Different Perspective (George Allen Statement On Illegal Immigration)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1405657/posts


30 posted on 05/24/2005 7:56:52 AM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: GWB00
Allen on the issues:

http://www.issues2000.org/Senate/George_Allen.htm


Here is one I like

Rated 100% by the Christian Coalition: a pro-family voting record. (Dec 2003)
31 posted on 05/24/2005 7:57:45 AM PDT by slowhand520
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To: nuffsenuff

I fully intend on working for Allen in the '08 race, if he'll run. I think an Allen/Rice ticket (and yes I know what many of you think of Condi) would be a winner for many reasons.


32 posted on 05/24/2005 7:59:33 AM PDT by Smedley (I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt.)
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To: GWB00

I like Allen a lot. But let's not forget that he's a Senator. Senators haven't done too well recently in presidential elections.
I'll be looking for a strong, GOP Govenor to burst onto the scene.
But Allen would make a great choice.


33 posted on 05/24/2005 8:00:16 AM PDT by mowkeka
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To: Smedley

That's exactly who I think should be on the ticket.

Allen/Rice in '08.

I'm in.


34 posted on 05/24/2005 8:01:38 AM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: mowkeka
Senators haven't done too well recently in presidential elections.

True, but...

1. He's a former Governor.

2. He'll be running against Hillary, also a Senator.

35 posted on 05/24/2005 8:03:31 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/wardsmythe)
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To: Mister Baredog

Sounds very good against what may be a Rodham/Obama ticket for the Dems. I do want to hear more strong talk and specific proposals from Allen (or any Republican candidate) on the borders. Her Heinous' all too obvious moves on this issue worry me and somebody has to counter them.


36 posted on 05/24/2005 8:03:33 AM PDT by katana
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To: mowkeka

Allen was Virginia governor, he was term-limited out.
He's got the executive experience along with the Senate record.


37 posted on 05/24/2005 8:04:07 AM PDT by WoodstockCat (W2 !!! Four more Years!!)
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To: TatieBug

I think the same about an Allen/Rice ticket. It just may pull a 30-50% African-American vote, enough to wipe out any remote chance for a Democrat victory and maybe removing the African-American lock-step devotion to the dems.


38 posted on 05/24/2005 8:08:02 AM PDT by Smedley (I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
And Sheets Byrd was in Gettysburg.

Probably in realtime also....not just the movie.

39 posted on 05/24/2005 8:09:12 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (I don't drink and FReep...it just looks that way)
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To: GWB00

I just heard him on Laura Ingraham. He is unafraid to speak out; he gets MY vote.


40 posted on 05/24/2005 8:10:24 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...you da man!!)
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