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VANITY: There's still a solution...make them FILIBUSTER the nominees
vanity ^ | 24 May 2005 | for-q-clinton

Posted on 05/24/2005 5:56:28 AM PDT by for-q-clinton

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To: lifelongsoldier
With aid from the constituents of the RINOs and the rest of us, Frist can restore the original filibuster and additionally make the instigator of a filibuster remain on the Senate floor for the duration of it. Institute a rule requiring continuous speech with no pause of more than three minutes duration, disallowing the yielding of the floor to members of one's own party, and no points of order during the filibuster.

He can't get a simple rules change through to allow votes on Bush's appointees.

THAT will NEVER happen.

21 posted on 05/24/2005 6:47:32 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Republican no more.)
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To: lifelongsoldier
Frist can restore the original filibuster and additionally make the instigator of a filibuster remain on the Senate floor

You're presupposing that Frist would want to do this, or that he has the backbone.

My guess is that Frist is just fine with this compromise of losers. It takes the heat off of him and directs it at McCain.

It further villainizes McLame with Republicans, but I doubt that he gives a rodent's rear end, as long as the media continues to kiss his posterior.

I'd like to see McCain get the Republican nomination, just for the sheer spite of working for his overwhelming defeat. It's more likely he'll run with Hillary -- and if you think Kerry was stomach-churning, just wait for 2008.

22 posted on 05/24/2005 7:01:19 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: for-q-clinton

Lock their butts in the capitol building and don't let them leave until they vote.

If they don't want to vote, quit delivering food to the capitol building, just give them water.

They have the right to make their own Senate rules, but they aren't royalty. If they need to be forced to do their jobs, force them to do their jobs.

Does the President have the authority to call for an emergency session of the Senate and keep them there?


23 posted on 05/24/2005 7:09:55 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: untrained skeptic

That's an interesting twist. What can the President do to give them pain? Is it possible for him to go to the supremes and say the Senate isn't fulfilling thier constitutional obligations and demand an up or down vote.

It's sad to think that the Rats are acting like babies and taking the ball home since they can't win. The founders probably never imagined a senator NOT doing his job and obstructing the appointment of judges.


24 posted on 05/24/2005 8:44:57 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton

I don't know if that will work or not - but - this just might . . .

Aticle II, Section 3

"He [the President] ... may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them,..."

IMHO, the President should immediately convene the Senate in Special Session for the purpose of considering his Federal Court nominations. The only order of business allowed is said consideration. Once all seven pending nominations have been considered, the Special Session can end and normal Senate Business may resume. The Special Session is justified based on the unconstitutional actions of the Senate Minority (aided and abetted by the RINO's) in denying consideration of his nominations.


25 posted on 05/24/2005 8:57:19 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Lazamataz
No. True fillibusters no longer exist, due to rules changes by the Democrats when they had the majority. They are not 24/7 nonstop droning sessions.

Fine, then why not honor the institution and traditions of the Senate by removing those rules changes? Force anyone who wants to filibuster to do it like "Mr Smith Goes to Washington". How can that be spinned negatively, it is in the finest traditions of the Senate. Then when the dems try to fillibuster in the future, they have to really do it!

26 posted on 05/24/2005 9:29:28 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: for-q-clinton
What can the President do to give them pain?

Recess appointments? Then when congress re-convenes, fillibuster any attempt to remove the recess appointees? Dems: Live they sword, die by the sword.

27 posted on 05/24/2005 9:32:43 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: for-q-clinton

"It's sad to think that the Rats are acting like babies and taking the ball home since they can't win."

While I agree with your assessment, I think you're being much too generous to our Republican Senators.

They share in the guilt for this mess. They're unwilling to press the point. They're unwilling to take a stand.

They talk and talk about taking a stand, but they don't do anything. They're just fishing for a "comprimise" which always give the Dems a little more of what they want every time.

The Dems obstruct, and the Republicans pander to them even though they have the majority. It should be the minority party approaching the majority trying to win some concessions rather than the majority party begging the minority no to make them make a stand.


28 posted on 05/24/2005 9:58:31 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: pepsi_junkie

We can't fight obstructionism with more obstructionism, especially since our Republican Senators don't have the backbone for it.

The Senate needs to be forced to fulfill thier Constitutional obligation. This isn't just a matter of Republican vs Democrat. It's an issue of playing political games behind the scenes rather than taking a public stance and voting.

Make them vote.

Make them all vote.

I'd rather Bush's nominees lose the vote than the Senate to be allowed to continue neglect their duty.

Call an emergency session, and lock them in until they vote.

Who knows, Kennedy might even come to his senses if he's kept sober long enough.


29 posted on 05/24/2005 10:12:28 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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