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Here's the Deal (Senate GOP "Deal ensures votes on seven of eight nominations")
american spectator ^ | 5/24/2005 | The Prowler

Posted on 05/23/2005 9:19:07 PM PDT by watsonfellow

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Maybe we should calm down a bit and see what happens.

Owens, Brown, and Pryor will be confirmed this week.

Let's see what happens to the others.

Even if the nuclear option had been pulled, the other nominations wouldn't have been voted on for weeks.

Let's hold our fire here and not act like crazy liberals.

I think this deal is better than we initially thought.

1 posted on 05/23/2005 9:19:08 PM PDT by watsonfellow
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To: watsonfellow

I think you're right.

I certainly hope you're right.

But I want to see the votes, and soon.


3 posted on 05/23/2005 9:24:25 PM PDT by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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"There is no way this agreement that breaks Democratic obstruction can be spun any way other than as a victory for Republicans and the Bush Administration," said a Republican Senate leadership aide .....

This is what the DUers are saying also. Sorry, but I say B.S.

4 posted on 05/23/2005 9:25:10 PM PDT by umgud (FR, NASCAR, NRA, GOP)
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A great reason against blindly supporting Republicans. The RINOs need to go. Not a penny to the party that keeps them in office. I'd trade the whole 100+435 of'm out. In a country of over 250 million, you can't convince me that these are the only 535 that can legislate.
5 posted on 05/23/2005 9:26:09 PM PDT by sefarkas (why vote Democrat-lite???)
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What is so good about getting votes on 6 out of 8, when you could have had votes on 8? What was ever the big deal about preserving the filibuster? Dems are just delaying until when it really counts, and they got to block 25% in the meantime.

IF dems really agreed not to filibuster in the future, they wouldn't have insisted on doing it now.

6 posted on 05/23/2005 9:26:36 PM PDT by Williams
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Exceptional circumstances will be anyone who is pro life, supports conservative views including the NRA, etc.

Those nominees deserved an up or down vote anyway. And no one believes the Democrats when they promise anything.


7 posted on 05/23/2005 9:27:28 PM PDT by Peach
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Two quotes from the article say it all:

"...assuming Democrats keep their promise."

"...regardless of the Democrats' unethical behavior in his case."

Not to put too fine a point on it, but do ya'll need someone to draw a map for you? The entire premise that this works for us is based on the Democrats keeping their promise. The same writer who mentions that, mentions UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR.

8 posted on 05/23/2005 9:29:08 PM PDT by Darkwolf (aka Darkwolf377 lurker since'01, member since 4/'04--stop clogging me with pings!)
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To: watsonfellow

It does seem logical to judge this so-called "deal" by the actual vote results, doesn't it?


9 posted on 05/23/2005 9:29:25 PM PDT by speedy
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I am with you not a penny more and all nominess from here on out should pass a litness test before they get an up or down vote for a republican Senate nomination.


10 posted on 05/23/2005 9:29:38 PM PDT by Brimack34
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Romans 5:3 -- We can rejoice, too, when we run into problems and trials,
for we know that they are good for us -- they help us learn to endure.


11 posted on 05/23/2005 9:29:49 PM PDT by Vision (When Hillary Says She's Going To Put The Military On Our Borders...She Becomes Our Next President)
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This sounds a lot better than some around here seem to think. By the way, where is old Hillary in all this? I thought she was trying to re-invent herself as a moderate? Not a very inspiring thing, to be completely sidestepped in the most dramatic Senate confrontation in years. It is on issues like this where you can see the real underlying liberal radicalism of Hillary Clinton, she would never agree to a deal like this.


12 posted on 05/23/2005 9:29:55 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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assuming Democrats keep their promise

ROFL. Sure they will!

13 posted on 05/23/2005 9:30:21 PM PDT by America's Resolve (Liberal Democrats are liars, cheats and thieves with no morals, scruples, ethics or honor!)
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And here is OUR deal:

Every two years the Republican Party begs for my money, my support and my vote. We have faithfully given each for decades but with this traitorous "deal" to end the filibuster they have "screwed the pooch". They will not get my money, my support OR my vote, until they act like men and vote and support the conservative values regarding illegal aliens, social security and the conservative judicial nominees, etc..., that my family and I believe in and the conservative promises on which they ran their campaigns.

Now that they have been reelected they have promptly forgotten the people and values that placed them into power. Well, I for one am no longer their pawn. Count me out, this country will get the kind of "leadership" it deserves; liberal, socialist/communist and corrupt. From now on, all I care about is my family and their well-being, the country can go to hell for all I care.

I have had it, I just sent the following to

Chairman@gop.com

May 23, 2005

Dear Sir,

My family and I have been faithful supporters and active members of the Republican Party here in New Hampshire for years. The last Democrat I voted for was Jimmy carter in the 70’s. Due to the extreme cowardice and near treasonous disregard for the Constitution of the United States shown by the Republican members of the Senate of the United States, who decided to cave in to unreasonable demands from the Democrat side of the aisle, I will cease to provide contributions to the Republican National Committee. Until this party remembers who voted for it and behaves in a manner consistent with what its base believes in, you will not receive so much as one penny from me again.

Please remove my name from all of your mailing list, and my telephone number from your calling lists.

Mr. & Mrs. XXXXX XXXXXXX

XX XXXXXX XXXX

XXXXXXXXX NH

14 posted on 05/23/2005 9:30:23 PM PDT by Jmouse007 ("Negotiate and die!" Brought to you by "Islam the Religion of Peace tm")
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How do you know they'll be confirmed?

Even The Prowler is assuming Dems "promises" mean something.


15 posted on 05/23/2005 9:30:38 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Nothing in this RINO deal guarantees Brown, Owen and Pryor will be CONFIRMED!)
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So now we have the Majority Leader's edited opinion, which is actually fairly positive. Will the media report it fairly? Can pigs fly?

While the agreement doesn't say that a filibuster won't occur for more than 3 of the 7, the statement here implies that there may be a side deal where the 7 Democrats will vote for cloture and let the votes fall where they may. But there may be some secret side deal where a number of the Pubbies will vote against a nominee in the up-or-down vote. What tangled webs the politicians weave.


16 posted on 05/23/2005 9:30:51 PM PDT by RandyRep
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To: Darkwolf

Well said, and not to stir the pot or anything but... "ping"


17 posted on 05/23/2005 9:31:56 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: sefarkas

Finally, someone gets it. You are right. I'd trade every one of these RINO traitors anytime. I want real control of the Senate, not feel-good control, which is really no control, as this silly compromise shows.

Does anyone think the "exceptional circumstances" clause will not be abused again and again by the Demorats?


18 posted on 05/23/2005 9:32:33 PM PDT by Zivasmate
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"There is no way this agreement that breaks Democratic obstruction can be spun any way other than as a victory for Republicans and the Bush Administration," said a Republican Senate leadership aide RINO staffer late Monday night
19 posted on 05/23/2005 9:32:37 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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This "deal" will work until a conservative is appointed to the USSC. Then this deal will be as used toilet paper.

NEVER trust a demonrat.


20 posted on 05/23/2005 9:34:33 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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