Posted on 05/23/2005 4:18:39 PM PDT by jern
I think the poster *meant* to say "blind-sided", as in getting side-swiped from a blind spot.
I wasn't going to say that because I didn't want to get banned. This could have been a game all along.
Think how you would act if you were the President and you were just blind-sighted by members of your party? Would you mad at these "mavericks?" If you just blind-sighted the President, would you expect retribution coming from the White House. Under what circumstances would none of the above take place? One is if the White House is so weak that it couldn't do anything. Or, how about the alternative that it was orchestrated with the White House? Bush saves his face with conservatives by nominating ones he knows wouldn't be confirmed. The "moderates" save their's by blocking them. In the meantime, party die-hards get played.
I guess this means that from now on, Bush will have to appoint all conservative minority women to the federal courts.
Lanny Davis isn't gloating?
He is 2 votes shy in the 109th Congress.
It also means 1) Frist has no control over the Rep. caucus,
No control over 7 RINO traitors
and 2) McCain is the traitor everyone says he is.
Traitor McCain
Maybe.
I think it's been bad PR by the GOP. First, they let the term "nuclear option" be used.
Second, they didn't attack...they never do.
Frist wanted to get all the Senate business out of the way first and that was smart. But once that was accomplished he should have been laying more of the ground work for this move.
And the agreement does not foreclose that. The next move is to see what the disposition of Saad and Myers are. If Specter keeps them in committee, we look for reaction from the WH. Will Bush withdraw the nominees? Or will he insist they be put to the floor for a vote? If so, we'll be right back to where we were this morning.
Yimach shmo ve zichro.
You may be right.
Agreed. Frist can't control the caucus and the White House's lobbying on The Hill has been pathetic.
I, too, would have preferred the nuclear detonation --about two years ago. I just wish the Pubbies could learn to unwind the dem spin. Dems have lied sooooomuch about the judicial nominees.
It is utterly disgraceful and unconscionable that the Repubs let it go on for so long. They should have been running ads in the states of Reid, Levin, Kennedy, Schumer, Harkins, Landrieu (that would have really dne some good, cause she barely squeaked back in in a run-off)--and other senators that should not have been supporting this foul obstructionism.
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Would people quite spinning a win? Do you realize what they just did? these 14 have just taken over the Senate. Apparently Lindsey is now announcing these 14 will craft their own plans on Social Security.
Shut down the Senate. leave these 14 the keys, the rest are irrelevnt.
They can call them whatever they want, but when Frist pulls the trigger, the Republicans better be calling them extreme if the Democrats expect to win the rules vote.
Good point. One of the problems is that this whole thing dragged on way too long. It gave the RINOs time to build up their venom.
Nope just asking you how you would have handled the situattion since it seems you think you know better than Frist.
No, they don't. They told America it wasn't important. Why should America view it as important if Republican in the Senate do not? Now, America will say that some other half-measure will do, because it did today.
I feel kind of bad for President Bush too. The gutless Republicans in the Senate make President Bush seem like a weak and ineffective leader.
What you are saying is that the White House is incredibly weak. That is not always true, especially when it comes to spending. I can guarantee you this deal was struck with the full knowledge of the White House.
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