Posted on 05/23/2005 10:16:50 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
excerpt from transcript of Howard Dean's performance on 'Meet the Press' yesterday, May 22, 2005 (all emphasis mine):
...MR. RUSSERT: Well, the--but several heads of the American Medical Association endorsed banning third-term abortions because they said life of the mother is one thing but the health is a much different issue. It can be defined in so many different ways, it was a major loophole.
DR. DEAN: You know what I'd prefer to see, frankly? I'd prefer to see medical practice boards around the country, state by state--because people do believe different things about this in different states.... I'd prefer to see medical practice boards around the country set ethical guidelines for abortion. I don't have a problem with that.
You know, I don't know of people who do third-term abortions without a moral reason for doing it, which is to save the health and life of the mother. So let them set some ethical guidelines. But I think this debate ought to get out of the realm of having politicians standing up and grandstanding.
It is an incredibly difficult area. It is an area which is conflicted. I don't know anybody who ever had an abortion who feels, "Oh, boy, this is just great. I can't wait to have another one." That's not what this is about. This is a very difficult, horrible choice. Does the government make that choice or does the individual make that choice? There are ethical constraints around the issue of abortion. There is no question about that. I think those ought to be done state by state...
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Hillary! and Howard Dean are trying to have it both ways on abortion. They think they can wrench away a red state or two by playing on peoples' ignorance of what Roe v. Wade has done.
We can't let them do it!
Dean is being exposed on many fronts (ewww, nasty thought, that) but hardly anyone is talking about this --although Rush discussed it for a few minutes today.
Bloggers need to pick up on Dean's huge gaffe about abortion --people won't recognize that it even was a gaffe until they're educated about what the Supreme Court's Roe decision really was: Which was nothing less than judicial usurpation of the peoples' right through their elected legislatures to make law.
I think I understand the point you are making here, Ditto.
But I would point out that a child begins to live as soon as a new human life begins.
And that happens, if I remember my high school biology well, at the moment of conception.
A child that is not-yet-born is still a child that lives.
And the woman who carries that child is still a mother.
I think, anyway.
But can one who "chooses" to cause the child's death, be considered a Mother in any sense of the word?
And I am sick of these Dems faking it! Trying to look pious and antiabortion. This is the one thing that bugs me the most in politics: when the other side pretends to be our side.
That's a great point. I agree, a life amendment would be better.
OTOH I don't give Dean credit for figuring it out. That kind of strategery and long-range planning is just too complicated for someone as illogical and over-emotional as Dean.
They get fed this stuff. You're right, it's too complicated for Dean to have figured it out by himself. But a lot of Dems seem to be taking this little pose in the stained-glass window. Can't be coincidence.
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