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Third Corona Teen Held in Fatal Stabbing (Hate crime)
The Los Angeles Times ^ | 5/20/2005 | Susannah Rosenblatt

Posted on 05/20/2005 4:59:44 PM PDT by Smogger

Police on Thursday arrested the last remaining suspect in last week's slaying of a Corona teenager — as thousands gathered the same day for the victim's funeral.

Corona and Riverside police, acting on a tip, arrested Edward Juan Cuellar, 16, of Corona about 1 a.m. after the sport utility vehicle he was riding in with five other people was stopped on Van Buren Boulevard in Riverside, said Sgt. Neil Reynolds of the Corona Police Department.

Dominic Redd, 15, was stabbed to death after being chased by three assailants at the Contadora condominium complex in Corona on May 11, authorities said. The two other suspects were arrested Monday

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The suspects, who are Latino, apparently made "derogatory comments" to Dominic, an African American, before the attack, Corona Police Sgt. Jerry Rodriguez said.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: black; crime; gangrelated; gangs; mexican; race; schoolviolence; stabbing
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More violence between hispanics and pretty much everyone. Those of you still living in places where other than Califiornia where racial tensions have historically been black and white are in for a whole new ball game.
1 posted on 05/20/2005 4:59:46 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: Smogger

"More violence between hispanics and pretty much everyone."

It's Bush's fault. And I'm not being sarcastic. We're importing a criminal class, and encouraging criminal behaviour at all levels of our society. It's got to stop.


2 posted on 05/20/2005 5:06:17 PM PDT by jocon307 (Irish grandmother rolls in grave, yet again.)
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To: Smogger

These conflicts are all about gangs and gangs are all about drug money and drug money is all about illegality. As long as illegal drugs exist, there will be more and more violence.


3 posted on 05/20/2005 5:06:55 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: Smogger

Just calling them hispanics is unfair. Cubans are hispanic and the vast majority are wonderful, hard-working, smart, law-abiding people. That is the Hispanic group I'm most familiar with. But it does seem more and more criminal Mexicans are coming into the US. That is very troubling.


4 posted on 05/20/2005 5:07:16 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Smogger
NY/NJ had alot of violence between blacks, Italians, and Puerto Ricans from the 1940s to the 1980s. Racial fights are NOTHING NEW in American society. They break out in most lower/lower middle class communities, particularly when one group moves in to an area historically occupied by another.

Let us also not forget that the most violent riot in American history occurred when a bunch of Irish immigrants upset over being drafted to fight the Civil War ran around lynching any black they could find and even burned down an orphanage filled with black children.

5 posted on 05/20/2005 5:14:37 PM PDT by Clemenza (A candy-colored clown they call the sandman...)
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Those of you still living in places where other than Califiornia where racial tensions have historically been black and white are in for a whole new ball game.

Yeah, and we can thank all those pro-open- border people for that. And there are plenty of them in California.

6 posted on 05/20/2005 5:21:01 PM PDT by taxesareforever
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Fights between blacks and white and hispanics have been common for sometime, at least in the NY and Chicago areas. I realize that folks from whitebreadlandia may be shocked to know that. Even if we stopped all immigration tomorrow, they would not disappear.


7 posted on 05/20/2005 5:24:16 PM PDT by Clemenza (A candy-colored clown they call the sandman...)
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To: mlc9852

I agree completely - MOST Hispanics that I have met have been good Christians, hard working, honest, reliable & extremely nice.

I think a lot of the legal immigrants, as well as American born Hispanics/Latinos, are getting sick of this criminal element, because most of them know, this minority, is giving the majority, a bad name & reputation.

There has been here in the US, since the 30's, a problem between the blacks & the Mexicans. Gang violence is up, murder rates are up & I doubt that securing the border will do much of anything to stop these 2 groups from waging war on the other (+ all the rest of us & our benefit system).


9 posted on 05/20/2005 5:25:08 PM PDT by rosy_toes (better to be hated for who you are, than loved for who you're not.)
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To: Baynative
People who still live in California see the graffiti on fences and the bars on the windows of homes and businesses growing closer and closer every day.

Sounds like New York City in the 1960s and 1970s. At least SoCal doesn't have garbage and transit strikes on a regular basis.

10 posted on 05/20/2005 5:28:42 PM PDT by Clemenza (A candy-colored clown they call the sandman...)
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To: Smogger
I am wondering if the victim would have been less dead had the perp screamed his affection for him while killing him. Murder is already against the law. This "hate crime" nonsense is silly. Prosecute for murder and be done with it.
11 posted on 05/20/2005 5:30:41 PM PDT by SALChamps03
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"It's Bush's fault."

I have never voted for this current Bush president, so I have no affection for him as president.

But it is not all his fault.

U.S. Constitution,

Article I, Section 8, Clause 15,

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions:

Article IV, Section 4,

The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union, a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion;

It is clearly Congress' responsibility to secure the borders and Congress is failing at that responsibility.

They all should be impeached.

12 posted on 05/20/2005 5:57:14 PM PDT by tahiti
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Wrong! You're obviously not from a "southern-border" state; otherwise, it would become immediately apparent to you that securing the border would indeed alleviate a myriad of problems experienced by American Citizens as a result of "Illegal Immigration!"


13 posted on 05/20/2005 6:01:38 PM PDT by old school
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"But it is not all his fault."

I agree, it is not ALL his fault. But he's got a BIG blind spot on this issue, but he is not alone.

Thank God for average Americans though, we do use our power to make our gov't listen to us. The public pressure for change on this subject is growing and the situation will be improved later if not sooner, I'm thinking.


14 posted on 05/20/2005 6:18:10 PM PDT by jocon307 (Legal immigrant Irish grandmother rolls in grave, yet again.)
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To: Clemenza

I agree. However, it would slow down the occurence of such incidents. Keeping the borders open will only increase the incidence of these incidents.


15 posted on 05/20/2005 6:24:54 PM PDT by taxesareforever
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"These conflicts are all about gangs and gangs are all about drug money and drug money is all about illegality. As long as illegal drugs exist, there will be more and more violence."

I remember SoCal of my youth, hispanic gangs, and PRE-drug era.

Then the gangs were about something other than drugs.

So for me, drugs do NOT explain hispanic gangs. Sorry.


16 posted on 05/20/2005 6:29:16 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: old school

You are correct, I am not from a southern-border state, but I am from a northern-border state (which does not have the same level of problems as the south, I know), but still has a serious problem with illegals. Ironically enough, a lot are coming up here, from the souther-border states (D'oh!).

What I meant to convey was, closing the border will not stop the blacks & mexicans fighting amongst themselves, although, I do agree it would go a long way towards helping to reduce the crime rate & benefit pay outs.

I am a very serious advocate for strict border enforcement, enforcing US border laws & deporting (forcing them, at gunpoint if necessary, to climb back over or through the fence, back into Mexico) the little s.o.b.s the minute you catch them crossing into the US.

I am sorry that I did not make that clearer.


17 posted on 05/20/2005 6:51:54 PM PDT by rosy_toes (better to be hated for who you are, than loved for who you're not.)
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To: jocon307

Of course it's Bush's fault. After all, no Mexicans ever crossed the border before he got into office.


18 posted on 05/20/2005 8:20:05 PM PDT by texasflower ("These people are motivated by a vision of the world that is backward and barbaric." GWB)
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To: truth_seeker

I remember the SoCal of my youth as well. I went to San Fernando High School in the '50s and saw gangs up-close and there were never shoot-outs or drive-bys. You may feel the need to look the other way about drugs and gangs but the reality is drug money is behind all the violence. That is as obvious as it can be.


19 posted on 05/20/2005 9:52:19 PM PDT by Misterioso
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"After all, no Mexicans ever crossed the border before [Bush] got into office."

Of course it isn't Bush's fault alone, but as another freeper put it once he missed THE golden opportunity to really get tough with the border on 9/12/01. And he had no desire to do it. And he shares that attitude with most other politicians, as far as I can see. The gov't may have stemmed the tide of single young middle eastern men. But they've done nothing to stop anyone else from coming in.

And the real problem with that is, even when we deport people, even when we deport criminals, they sneak right back in again. We simply cannot continue to have no control over who comes into this country, how long they stay here, and what they do while they are here.

It doesn't matter to our beloved W, he's out of office for could after this term. But it really is going to matter to the other pubbies who will be running for office, and it is about the only issue available to the dims to make inroads in the republican voters base.

So, merely out of self-interest, somebody ought to start paying attention.


20 posted on 05/21/2005 5:03:20 AM PDT by jocon307 (Legal immigrant Irish grandmother rolls in grave, yet again.)
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