Posted on 05/19/2005 5:50:50 AM PDT by veronica
IT WAS front-page news this week when Newsweek retracted a report claiming that a US interrogator in Guantanamo had flushed a copy of the Koran down a toilet. Everywhere it was noted that Newsweek's story had sparked widespread Muslim rioting, in which at least 17 people were killed. But there was no mention of deadly protests triggered in recent years by comparable acts of desecration against other religions.
No one recalled, for example, that American Catholics lashed out in violent rampages in 1989, after photographer Andres Serrano's ''Piss Christ" -- a photograph of a crucifix submerged in urine -- was included in an exhibition subsidized by the National Endowment for the Arts. Or that they rioted in 1992 when singer Sinead O'Connor, appearing on ''Saturday Night Live," ripped up a photograph of Pope John Paul II.
There was no reminder that Jewish communities erupted in lethal violence in 2000, after Arabs demolished Joseph's Tomb, torching the ancient shrine and murdering a young rabbi who tried to save a Torah. And nobody noted that Buddhists went on a killing spree in 2001 in response to the destruction of two priceless, 1,500-year-old statues of Buddha by the Taliban government in Afghanistan.
(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...
Well, it's called a Crusade, and if the USA ever completely took the gloves off and waged total war again we would scare the living crap out of everyone else on the planet.
We wouldn't have to wage total war...just a few well placed nukes would do!
You hit the nail right on the head when you said...
"There are Muslims in America and there are Muslims that are American citizens. But a Muslims first and strongest allegiance is to Islam."
For this reason, we can't trust 'em. I hate to say that and I wish it were otherwise...but it's not.
There sure are. But, I won't give up on you. I'll even explain . . . patiently.
The text Veronica chose to excerpt described events which made the author appear to make them equivalent to the Guantanamo non-incident.
"But there was no mention of deadly protests triggered in recent years by comparable acts of desecration against other religions."
Some of our compadres misjudged the author's real intent. Does not mean any of us believed those things happened, only that so much as was excerpted showed a writer claiming they had occurred. Had Veronica posted a little more, enough to convey the core of the author's message, there would have been less confusion. Or, if she had only included this:
Of course, there was a good reason all these bloody protests went unremembered in the coverage of the Newsweek affair: They never occurred.
Excerpting should, IMHO only, provide enough information from the article to let us know what it is really about. I don't always do that, but I try.
If your reply was tongue-in-cheek, add a smiley or something. :-)
Hurry up with that Ark, Dr. Jones!
I think she more than "slightly" misspoke when she referred to it as the "Holy Koran". If desecrating it is gratuitous, so is this obsequious pandering.
marking...
"Opps, jumped the gun on that one...Sorry. I expected crap from the Globe."
Since I KNEW none of the events the author was talking about ever happened I assumed he was trying to make a point. Actually the same point I have made on liberal sites regarding this thing.
I don't fault Newsweek I fault the adults that killed people. This was a good thing in that it further exposed Mohammadism for the bankrupt belief system it is. If it would not clog it up. I'd happily toss a koran down any public toilet where everyone, ESPECIALLY Mohammadans, could see.
Their reaction would tell all.
Normally, I'd agree with this statement, but Jeff Jacoby notes that nobody remembers the violent rampages of American Catholics... Because they never happened. He was making a point here.
Mark
I agree veronica could have done a better job excerpting but, her excerpt didn't confuse me. The title of the article should have clued in the clueless that this was an article condemning Muslims. Finally, is it too much to ask that people actually read an article before jumping to conclusions?
That's right, as Jacoby pointed out “Christians, Jews, and Buddhists don't lash out in homicidal rage when their religion is insulted. They don't call for holy war and riot in the streets. It would be unthinkable for a mainstream priest, rabbi, or lama to demand that a blasphemer be slain.”
However, Muslims go totally insane when someone allegedly insult their religion.
Good for you.
In a perfect world, you would be correct to clue-in the apparently clueless. But, titles are frequently misleading. Especially when the columnists are syndicated, and sometimes when they're not, editors like to change titles to fit their own sense of relevance and ironic humor. I'm sure you've been fooled into reading something now-and-then that wasn't quite what you believed it to be. I have.
I think most people expect excerpts, especially here, to be something akin to a precís which accurately conveys the meat of the article.
Finally, is it too much to ask that people actually read an article before jumping to conclusions?
Judging from the number of folks going off in the wrong direction on this one, apparently, it is. I can't cast too many stones, though. I've done it myself a time or two or three . . . :-)
NO!. Since it involves urine, we'd have to ask a homo....
IMHO, Poker Playing Dogs is an unparalleled masterpiece.
I guess I will just have to be a yahoo then, becuase I do not understand it.
I read it and apologised.
The Globe is the NYT's branch in Boston. I was unfamiliar with the author too......
The fourth, unexcerpted paragraph is the clincher.
I was not alone.
What's your point about Christianity having a commandment against killing and Islam not? Followers of Christianity kill in the name of religion to this day. They don't seem to take notice to the commandment.
But... did the Chicago Sun Times then ask the general manager of the Al-Arabiya television network what was being done to change that?
I'm sure they didn't.
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