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Research Finds That Red Is for Winners
NY Times ^ | May 19, 2005 | JOHN SCHWARTZ

Posted on 05/19/2005 2:48:20 AM PDT by Pharmboy

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To: Pharmboy
When the Patriots wore this color:

They played possum football - played dead at home and got killed on the road.

When they switched to this color:

They became a three ring champion.

21 posted on 05/19/2005 6:02:12 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Interconnectiveness - the speed at which stupid happens)
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To: Skooz

The Raiders, KC, Denver and San Diego have given the most bang for the buck on any given Sunday when they play each other.


22 posted on 05/19/2005 6:06:43 AM PDT by Route101
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To: Skooz

?????


23 posted on 05/19/2005 6:08:43 AM PDT by Route101
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I never understood the use of the color red for the conservative states. We typically associate red with communism, as in "Red Chinese" or the 60's slogan better "red than dead." The Dems are the socialists in the US, so I wonder if the media intentionally tried to remove the "red" stigma associated with the libs in their presentation of the 2000 election results.


24 posted on 05/19/2005 6:10:11 AM PDT by gregwest
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I never understood the use of the color red for the conservative states. We typically associate red with communism, as in "Red Chinese" or the 60's slogan better "red than dead." The Dems are the socialists in the US, so I wonder if the media intentionally tried to remove the "red" stigma associated with the libs in their presentation of the 2000 election results.

There's a gazillion threads on it here on FR. The gist of it is that the incumbent party was usually blue, so in 2000, President Bush got tagged with red. In all the media debate during the 2000 Florida silliness, the red vs. blue got entrenched.

I distinctly remember looking at Reagan's landslide in 1984 where the whole country was blue except for Minnesota and D.C.

25 posted on 05/19/2005 6:15:32 AM PDT by Terabitten (I have a duty as an AMERICAN, not a Republican. We can never put Party above Nation.)
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To: Pharmboy

It leads you to wonder just how badly the Reds would be performing over the years without this in their favor. Tsk tsk tsk.


26 posted on 05/19/2005 6:34:23 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: Pharmboy

I've read that 40% of Cardinals (Redbirds) die each year. Don't remember any other details.


27 posted on 05/19/2005 6:38:20 AM PDT by blam
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To: Pharmboy

The last time I watched a local channel's sport's coverage the Red's uniforms didn't look so red to me anymore anyway. I think they are mostly black and white with touches of red. But then, I'm just a girl. What do I know?


28 posted on 05/19/2005 6:41:04 AM PDT by Wiser now (A bitter, sour old woman is the crowning work of the devil.)
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The blue state MSM blew it again. Now watch them try to take back
the glorious red symbol of their Marxist-Leninist revolution, please.
29 posted on 05/19/2005 7:16:19 AM PDT by OESY
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As far as I can recall, the teams I've supported have always had "red". All too often, they lost.

I haven't looked into details of this study, but if it is true, then there ought to be an easy proof:

Check W/L percentages of the many teams who have red&white colors during their head-to-head competitions. Most sports have the home team wearing predominantly white. If the visitors, wearing the "red" uniforms, have a better than average W/L than other visiting teams, perhaps I'll agree color has effect.


30 posted on 05/19/2005 7:38:48 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Pharmboy

I wonder if that goes for horse racing too. But do I bet on the horses wearing red or do i wear something red to the track? Those red hat ladies must be making out like crazy then when they go to the track.


31 posted on 05/19/2005 7:41:50 AM PDT by LauraJean (sometimes I win sometimes I donate to the equine benevolent society)
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To: Pharmboy
Does this go for states during elections also?

YUP!!


32 posted on 05/19/2005 8:17:24 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Give Byrd the Byrd option now.)
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To: Route101

LOL!!


33 posted on 05/19/2005 12:32:11 PM PDT by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: Arrowhead1952
Does your map count all the dead demonrat voters or is this just live ones?

( :-D

34 posted on 05/19/2005 12:38:22 PM PDT by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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That map has to include the dead ones too. There ain't that many people in the US.


35 posted on 05/19/2005 12:54:55 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Give Byrd the Byrd option now.)
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To: Skooz
This is the year, baby.
Sorry - not with our WMD - Weapons of Mass Distraction! ;-)


36 posted on 05/19/2005 2:34:12 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (What's this for ? ;-)
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To: Pharmboy

Red was a winner last November.


37 posted on 05/19/2005 2:35:02 PM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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Red is a recipe for sporting success

Supplementary information (downloaded from Nature)

Methods Data for four combat sports (boxing, taekwondo, greco-roman wrestling and freestyle wrestling) where contestants wore either a red or blue outfit (or body protectors in taekwondo) in each bout at the Athens 2004 Olympics were taken from the official Olympics website (http://www.athens2004.com). Data were recorded on the colour of each participant’s outfit, the winner of the bout, the method of victory and the points scored by each competitor (see Tables for individual sports). Bouts won by walkover were excluded. The data for the pool matches in the wrestling competitions were also subsequently excluded on two grounds. Firstly, if the winner (or loser) of the group was decided before the final bout was fought then the motivation and commitment of one (or both) contestants is inevitably compromised leading to artificial asymmetries in the fight. Secondly, since for every pool of three each competitor wears red and blue once, and since the majority of pools were decided by a single individual winning both bouts, the competition design actually controls for any potential colour advantage. In order to identify where the effects of colour were most evident, bouts were recoded into different classes of contest asymmetry on the basis of the difference in points scored by each competitor. For each sport, every contest was categorized on the basis of the quartile of the final points difference in the bout, where the first quartile of points difference represents symmetrical contests between competitors of similar ability and the fourth quartile represents contests between competitors with large asymmetries in ability. Contests stopped early (such as by knockout) were scored as highly asymmetric contests and coded in the fourth quartile.

38 posted on 05/21/2005 8:31:24 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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You left out Conrad Dobler. He not only wore red (St Louis Cardinals), he saw red!
39 posted on 05/21/2005 10:17:29 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: gregwest
if the media intentionally tried to remove the "red" stigma

2000 it was in line with tradition.

2004 is was part of the MSM "words mean nothing, let's just go for an emotional grasping at straws" campaign.

40 posted on 05/21/2005 11:50:58 PM PDT by lizma
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