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Pregnant graduate defies ban on ceremony participation
KWQC-TV Quad Cities ^ | May 18, 2005 | AP

Posted on 05/18/2005 1:41:11 PM PDT by billorites

MONTGOMERY, Ala. Alysha Cosby was told she couldn't take part in her graduation at St. Jude Educational Institute in Montgomery, Alabama, because she was pregnant.

But after the last student on the program received a diplomas, Cosby announced her own name and walked across the stage anyway -- to the cheers of many of her classmates at the Roman Catholic high school.

Still -- according to a newspaper (the Montgomery Advertiser) -- some at last night's ceremony considered her move in poor taste.

The school had delivered her diploma to her house earlier in the day, but she still wanted to take part in the ceremony.

Her mother was unapologetic, saying: "She deserved to walk, and she did."

The father of the girl's child -- also a senior at the school -- was allowed to participate in the graduation.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cary; graduation; patriarchal; slut; teenpregnancy
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To: Idisarthur

I don't know. I have to say that private schools, particularly religious ones, shouldn't have to keep students around who go against everything they're teaching.

Parents send their children to religious private schools for a reason - so that they get a good education without all the filth in public schools. (Including pregnant unwed girls) That kind of culture is not necessary in a religious school.


41 posted on 05/18/2005 2:43:28 PM PDT by SweetPilotofCanuckistan (DeLay/Laura Bush '08!)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

I agree with you. They should've let her walk and not allowed any extra attention to be drawn to the fact. Now they can't ignore it.


42 posted on 05/18/2005 2:44:16 PM PDT by secret garden (Go Spurs Go!)
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To: billorites

She really thinks that if a few of the other inmates cheer that it justifies her action? Sheesh. Looks like wisdom did in fact prevail in this case.


43 posted on 05/18/2005 2:45:26 PM PDT by RobRoy (Child support and maintenence (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
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To: 3AngelaD
"The concept of shame is a useful one, useful to society and useful to one's own conscience and development."


44 posted on 05/18/2005 2:46:00 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: rhetorica

I think both the mother and father should have been asked to leave, if the school has a rule for dismissal in this case.

And I think the girl's mother should be less concerned with what the girl wants (i.e. disrupting a ceremony to make a point) and focus on where she went wrong raising a daughter that's now unmarried and pregnant.


45 posted on 05/18/2005 2:46:14 PM PDT by SweetPilotofCanuckistan (DeLay/Laura Bush '08!)
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To: fr_freak

Of course, there is the story of the woman at the well, who had had many husbands and was living outside of marriage at the time jesus encountered her. Jesus did not shame her, but offered her the living waters.

Then there is the story of the woman accused of adultry who was about to be stoned. His word to the woman were not one of shame--in fact, instead of condeming her he gently told her to "go and sin no more."

In neither case does the Bible record Jesus as inflicting either shame or condemnation.

I'm also curious about your claim that the problem is being pregnant. This is wrong on so many levels. First it took both the boy and the girl to create the pregnancy, so in fact the boy was also a party to the pregnancy. Second, such a perspective seems to say that it is not the sex that should be condemned, only the getting caught. From that perspective only girls get "caught" because only they carry the pregnancy. I guess it is not sinful for boys to have sex outside of marriage--only girls?


46 posted on 05/18/2005 2:55:16 PM PDT by rhetorica
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To: SweetPilotofCanuckistan

Apparently they don't have a rule for dismissal. I live in Alabama and have been reading about this case for several weeks now. When the school sent the girl home, they did so for "safety" reasons (this was the phrase used by the principle).


47 posted on 05/18/2005 2:59:01 PM PDT by rhetorica
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To: fr_freak; SweetPilotofCanuckistan
"Jesus [wouldn't] be of the opinion that you should feel no shame for your sin."

The other students surely did sin during that period but they probably had money for condoms. But overall is this shame to be Public or Private (i.e. within yourself)?

"I have to say that private schools, particularly religious ones, shouldn't have to keep students around who go against everything they're teaching. "

Well that I agree with this if you are going to be legalistic and have a heavy hand for all. What I mean by that is take it to it's limits. Watch these kids day and night, almost to the point of being a military school. Oh sorry, military school kids also partake in drugs and sex - just like most private school kids.

I have to say that most Catholic school kids, I knew, lived on the edge... I'm mean they had more sex and drugs than you could find in my public school. Yes, drugs .... as they had money to buy the drugs. We couldn't afford cigs much less pot.

So because she was pregnant she didn't get to walk? You never mentioned anything about the boy.

Boys are morons. I hate them and I am one. lol.

48 posted on 05/18/2005 2:59:57 PM PDT by Idisarthur
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To: billorites

Public or Private Shame?


49 posted on 05/18/2005 3:01:20 PM PDT by Idisarthur
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
What was wrong with either one of them participating?

Because in the Catholic religion, unrepented premarital sex is a mortal (go directly to hell) sin.

If they were unrepentent, neither of them should have been allowed to attend.

50 posted on 05/18/2005 3:01:41 PM PDT by jimt
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To: billorites

Well.....if they'd gotten MARRIED.....it would have been different, but I agree.....the guy should NOT be participating EITHER! There are CONSEQUENCES to life's decisions.....rewarding bad decisions, gets you.....more BAD DECISIONS!


51 posted on 05/18/2005 3:01:47 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: Idisarthur

You must hate yourself alot...


52 posted on 05/18/2005 3:02:28 PM PDT by Xenophon450
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To: Xenophon450

lol : D


53 posted on 05/18/2005 3:02:51 PM PDT by Idisarthur
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To: billorites
I went to a public school in Texas and the few girls that did get pregnant were sent to another school with other pregnant girls from around the area. What this girl did isn't anything to applaud. Those that say otherwise are part of the problem. We've eradicated shame from our society so that now everything from homosexuality and teen pregnancy to adultery and divorce is perfectly acceptable.

What's done is done, but there's nothing to gain in applauding disgraceful behavior.
54 posted on 05/18/2005 3:03:05 PM PDT by Jaysun (No matter how hot she is, some man, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t)
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To: gcruse

I agree, the father should not have been allowed to walk with honor either. That was not thought through properly.

As far as the girl is concerned, for all her pride in walking across the stage, want to bet she won't be too full of pride to put the hand out for welfare checks.

There is no shame because they are young, ignorant and more than likely brought up poorly.


55 posted on 05/18/2005 3:04:14 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Jaysun
In fact, I am holier than thou and I believe shouldn't have walked.
56 posted on 05/18/2005 3:10:26 PM PDT by Idisarthur
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To: billorites

So does the rule apply to:

Students who are known to have had sex but didn't get pregnant?

Girls who are known to have gotten pregnant but were suddenly not pregnant later on?

Or just the girls who get pregnant and stay that way to term?


57 posted on 05/18/2005 3:12:18 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: taxesareforever

Otherwise, their feelings will be hurt and they will suffer low self-esteem, for which they may require psychotherapy and medication which they cannot afford since the nasty Republicans defeated Hillary! care socialized medicine/sarcasm off


58 posted on 05/18/2005 3:15:52 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Idisarthur
In fact, I am holier than thou and I believe shouldn't have walked.

I don't want to pull you away from watching your home video of the "Vagina Monologues", but could you clarify that?
59 posted on 05/18/2005 3:23:18 PM PDT by Jaysun (No matter how hot she is, some man, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t)
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To: fr_freak; foreshadowed at waco

Thank you fr_freak, that needed to be said, and you said it much better than I could have.


60 posted on 05/18/2005 4:39:14 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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