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Why Islam Was Enraged By Newsweek-(are rabble rousers afraid Christianity is superior?)
NEW YORK SUN ^ | MAY 17, 2005 | HILLEL HALKIN

Posted on 05/17/2005 4:12:54 PM PDT by CHARLITE

"Oops, sorry. It looks like we were wrong." Thus Newsweek apologizes for its story in last week's issue that American intelligence interrogators in Guantanamo desecrated the Koran in front of Muslim prisoners and flushed it down the toilet - an error that has to date cost the lives of 16 people killed in the anti-American riots that the story set off in various parts of the Islamic world.

One wonders why a supposedly responsible magazine like Newsweek didn't manifest a tad less credulity toward a report indicating that American intelligence is run not only by anti-Muslim barbarians, but also by total imbeciles. Who else would think that the way to get a terror suspect to be more cooperative is by treating his holy scriptures as excrement? The strong tendency in today's world to believe that America is in the hands of cretins has, apparently, its supporters in the American media, too.

But one also wonders about something else. Suppose for a moment that the shoe had been on the other foot - that is, that Newsweek had run a story about intelligence interrogators in a Muslim country desecrating the New Testament or the Hebrew Bible in a facility holding Christian or Jewish prisoners. What would have been the reaction?

There would have been angry protests, of course. Perhaps even a few noisy rallies at churches or synagogues. But riots? 16 deaths? It's hard to imagine.

Do Muslims really revere the Koran so much more than Christians and Jews do the Bible? They act as if they do. Think of the Salman Rushdie affair. For years this Muslim-born novelist was threatened with death all over the Muslim world for parodying certain episodes in the Koran. A Christian or Jewish novelist who did the same with the Bible would get yawned at.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bible; christianity; flushing; gitmo; islam; koran; korandesecration; muslim; newsweek; quran; rage; riots; story; toilet
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To: CHARLITE

(are rabble rousers afraid Christianity is superior?)
The answer to the question is YES! and it is.


21 posted on 05/17/2005 4:52:52 PM PDT by roylene
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To: AFPhys
A RESPONSIBLE news organization might even state a "story" was shopped to them that was found to be UNTRUE after investigation by proper authority - Newsweek COULD have done that in this particular case, and done a great service to our country and the world in exposing how misinformation can attempt to be planted in the media. They blew it, and instead CAUSED MURDERS and Mayhem.

Ahem. The people who killed and rioted caused the murder and mayhem.

Newsweek just published a story. True or not, it's just words on a page.

What you're saying is the same as liberals trying to blame murders on the gun instead of the shooter.

22 posted on 05/17/2005 4:53:12 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker ("There ought to be limits to freedom" --George W. Bush, May 26, 1999)
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To: weegee
Actually, political correctness is always having to say you are sorry.
23 posted on 05/17/2005 4:54:31 PM PDT by roylene
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To: CHARLITE
"are rabble rousers afraid Christianity is superior?"

Absolutely. The Christophobes are terrified that a real God will prove they are nothing but little false gods.

24 posted on 05/17/2005 4:56:16 PM PDT by ViLaLuz
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To: roylene

That is liberal guilt. Not quite the same thing.

It is okay to make a Christian cry. They are "meanies".


25 posted on 05/17/2005 4:57:09 PM PDT by weegee (Funny how prisoners at Gitmo can have their religious books but our school kids can't.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

If someone yells fire in a crowded theater, the real culprit is the guy who shoves people out of his way to escape, right?

John Kerry lied before Congress when he described "war crimes" he observed in Vietnam. Those lies emboldened the enemy. That is treason.

This is no different. Newsweek knew that it served to destabilize the area. The only question is whether they knew it was untrue or even cared.


26 posted on 05/17/2005 4:59:35 PM PDT by weegee (Funny how prisoners at Gitmo can have their religious books but our school kids can't.)
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To: AFPhys

Maybe my memory is off, but I thought Newsweek did run the story by the Army and got no comments.


27 posted on 05/17/2005 4:59:44 PM PDT by obnogs
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To: AFPhys
This story should NEVER, EVER have been written in the main stream press, EVEN IF TRUE!!!

Exactly!  What was the purpose?  If the goal wasn't to incite unrest and anti-American sentiment than what was it?

28 posted on 05/17/2005 5:00:11 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: TheConservator
How about putting the managing editor of the Washington Post in a container of urine?
29 posted on 05/17/2005 5:02:33 PM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: CHARLITE

The exagerated rage diplayed by the Muslims, because of the alleged Koran abuse, is merely an excuse for them to show their ingrained hatred towards the West.

Wake up America, Muslims prefer to live among their murderous ilk instead of generous infidels. And that is not only in Afghanistan and Pakistan but also in Iraq.


31 posted on 05/17/2005 5:05:40 PM PDT by auburntiger
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To: TheConservator
"So which of us enterprising Freepers is going to apply for the NEA grant to sponsor "artwork" that consists of placing the Koran in a container of urine? "

A urinal?

33 posted on 05/17/2005 5:06:24 PM PDT by BobS
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To: FierceDraka
I'm thinking I may want to pick up an English translation of this "Koran".

You can find an on line searcheable copy of the koran here,

If you just want to see what's in it, the on line version should satisfy your curiosity.

If you want it for artistic, or private personal uses, just print off the pages necessary.

34 posted on 05/17/2005 5:14:28 PM PDT by joshhiggins
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To: weegee
If someone yells fire in a crowded theater, the real culprit is the guy who shoves people out of his way to escape, right?

Bad analogy. Below is one that's more apt.

Someone yells fire in a theatre. Someone else in that theater kills a third movie-goer because he didn't like what the original shouter said.

So, do we blame the murder on the original shouter or the guy who killed the innocent?

John Kerry lied before Congress when he described "war crimes" he observed in Vietnam. Those lies emboldened the enemy. That is treason.

But this isn't the enemy. Bush says these are our friends, fellow lovers of freedom, newly minted-supporters of democracy. Well, as long as we don't criticize them or their religion, right?

This is no different. Newsweek knew that it served to destabilize the area. The only question is whether they knew it was untrue or even cared.

So, are the murderers and rioters absolved of all responsiblity for their actions because Newsweek published a lie? It sounds like you think they should not be held responsible for their actions.

35 posted on 05/17/2005 5:17:46 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker ("There ought to be limits to freedom" --George W. Bush, May 26, 1999)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Do you believe the rioters to be arguing among one another or stampeding through the streets?

I have not heard that the dead and injured wound up in that state for agreeing with the concept of putting the koran in the toilet.

Where did you get this news? Newsweak?


36 posted on 05/17/2005 5:23:50 PM PDT by weegee (Funny how prisoners at Gitmo can have their religious books but our school kids can't.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

A woman from the LA Times tried to ignite a riot during the Elian Gonzales protests in Miami. She threw rocks at police trying to antagonize the crowd into following suit.

They did not. She was arrested and charged (yet continued working at the LAT). Any doubt what side of the argument she stood politically?

It would have done wonders for smearing the protestors though ("Anti-Castro protestors turn violent!").


37 posted on 05/17/2005 5:27:11 PM PDT by weegee (Funny how prisoners at Gitmo can have their religious books but our school kids can't.)
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To: Nihao
The majority of Iraqis appreciate their liberation.

Uh-huh. Let me know when they open up the Green zone to ordinary Iraqis.

38 posted on 05/17/2005 5:30:31 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker ("There ought to be limits to freedom" --George W. Bush, May 26, 1999)
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To: TheConservator
"P*** Christ" (not my title)

"Isn't it interesting that the Koran in the toilet (which didn't happen, apparently) constitutes desecration and a crucifix in a bottle of urine gets a government grant? Does that seem strange to anyone else?"

39 posted on 05/17/2005 5:34:30 PM PDT by weegee (Funny how prisoners at Gitmo can have their religious books but our school kids can't.)
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To: weegee
Do you believe the rioters to be arguing among one another or stampeding through the streets?

I would expect rioters to be stampeding through the streets. That's why they're called "rioters".

But why were they rioting? Did someone kill their children? Did someone destroy their homes? Did someone assassinate their beloved leader?

Nope. Newsweek published a story that said that a copy of the Koran was flushed down a toilet. And for this offense, peace-loving muslims kill people and riot. Real civilized bunch you've got there.

I have not heard that the dead and injured wound up in that state for agreeing with the concept of putting the koran in the toilet.

So who's to blame for the killing? Newsweek or the murderers?

Where did you get this news? Newsweak?

Huh? Come again?

40 posted on 05/17/2005 5:37:06 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker ("There ought to be limits to freedom" --George W. Bush, May 26, 1999)
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