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Breakinh!-- McCain Admits He Does Not Have Votes for RINO Filibuster "Compromise"!
Reuters ^ | 05-17-05 | cww

Posted on 05/17/2005 7:11:09 AM PDT by CWW

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - On the eve of a high-stakes showdown, a key lawmaker said on Tuesday it was unclear if a group of bipartisan U.S. senators could strike a deal on President Bush's contested judicial nominees.

"It's hard to say. There's a lot of cross-pressures. There's a lot of activity on both extremes of the political spectrum," Sen. John McCain, an Arizona Republican, told CNN. "We'll know more today."

The Senate is to begin what's expected to be several days of debate on Wednesday on two of the seven appeals court candidates blocked by Democrats during the last Congress and then renominated by Bush after he won re-election in November.

Republicans have vowed that if Democrats again stop the nominees with procedural hurdles known as filibusters, they will move to ban such tactics on appeals court as well as U.S. Supreme Court nominees.

Republican leaders say they will have the 51 votes needed in the 100-member Senate to abolish such filibusters. But Democrats argue it is too close to call.

Efforts to find common ground persisted despite a breakdown in talks on Monday between Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican, and Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat.

McCain and Sen. Ben Nelson, a Nebraska Democrat, are leading an effort to attract a half dozen largely moderate senators from each party to a last ditch-compromise.

Their proposal would clear the way for votes on some of Bush's stalled judicial nominees while blocking others.

Under the proposal, Republicans would promise not to eliminate judicial filibusters through the end of next year, and Democrats would vow not to use such tactics against any circuit court or Supreme Court nominee except in "extreme circumstances."

Republicans hold 55 of 100 Senate seats. A simple majority is needed to confirm a nominee, but 60 votes are required to end a filibuster.

The aim of Nelson and McCain has been to provide six Democratic votes to clear the way for confirmation votes on some of the disputed nominees and six Republican votes to preserve the judicial filibuster. Nelson was confident he had enough Democrats on board, but was still working to attract a total of six Republicans, an aide said.

Talks between Frist and Reid ended following months of futile efforts to find common ground.

"The negotiations are over," Reid said. "I've tried to compromise (but) they want all or nothing, and I can't do that."

Frist said in a statement, "Republicans believe in the regular order of fair up and down votes and letting the Senate decide yes or no on judicial confirmations free from procedural gimmicks like the filibuster."


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: filibuster; mccain; mccrook; reidsnuclearreaction; rino; scarmable; ussenate
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To: PhiKapMom

What I want to hear is that McMeMeMe admits he doesn't have the votes to win re-election.

Dan


81 posted on 05/17/2005 7:44:52 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: F16Fighter


Well, gee darn, you're sposta know dees tings.


82 posted on 05/17/2005 7:45:36 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Peach

ping!


83 posted on 05/17/2005 7:46:05 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Hillary's Chappaquiddick. Check it out at: www.Hillcap.org)
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To: CWW

I scanned the net and found this article one of the most detailed about the history and constitutional angles:

http://66.216.126.164/comment/comment-eastman051503.asp

Heading to work - have a good one.


84 posted on 05/17/2005 7:46:20 AM PDT by torchthemummy ("Sober Idealism Equals Pragmatism")
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To: untrained skeptic
..."it appears a couple Dems have some honor and are willing to vote to end the obstructionism in the Senate."

Or a couple of Dems who live in the Red states and are soon up for re-election.

85 posted on 05/17/2005 7:46:28 AM PDT by maxter (I)
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To: All

LIEBERMAN PRESS CONFERENCE NOW on the fact that Frist/Reid talks have failed. Showdown is on according to Lieberman.


86 posted on 05/17/2005 7:47:31 AM PDT by katieanna (My Redeemer Liveth!)
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To: Petronski

Good. I was wonderinh about you for a momint...


87 posted on 05/17/2005 7:47:33 AM PDT by NewLand (Faith in The Lord trumps all!)
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To: Bar-Face

Come on, now. I was hoping that we could stay unified at least for this week. But, inevitably, we are going to hear some FReepers bash every Republican while giving the Democrats a pass.


88 posted on 05/17/2005 7:48:21 AM PDT by Deo et Patria (Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: maxter
Or a couple of Dems who live in the Red states and are soon up for re-election.

Bayh?

89 posted on 05/17/2005 7:48:35 AM PDT by NewLand (Faith in The Lord trumps all!)
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To: onyx
ME??

I merely obsoive McCain and Matthews' body language and mutual goo-goo eyes as they hold hands during their so-called CNN "interviews" (that was the question, right? :-D).

90 posted on 05/17/2005 7:49:07 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: CWW

Well, that's encouraginh!!


91 posted on 05/17/2005 7:50:04 AM PDT by laishly
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To: torchthemummy
* bump * Good non-technical summary.

http://66.216.126.164/comment/comment-eastman051503.asp

The Senate website has a copy of the origial Senate Rules, in place from 1789 to 1806. Hmmm. Rules VIII & IX add up to "no possibility of delay by a minority."

http://rules.senate.gov/history.html <--

92 posted on 05/17/2005 7:52:46 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: F16Fighter


"Obsoive" -- OMG, tell me you don't really talk like that! :)


93 posted on 05/17/2005 7:53:56 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: katieanna; Miss Marple; cyncooper; Mo1
LIEBERMAN PRESS CONFERENCE NOW on the fact that Frist/Reid talks have failed. Showdown is on according to Lieberman.

Does this mean Lieberman will tow the party line on the filibuster? Very disappointing if true.....

94 posted on 05/17/2005 7:54:15 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Hillary's Chappaquiddick. Check it out at: www.Hillcap.org)
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To: Just mythoughts

It's always about McQueeg, isn't it.


95 posted on 05/17/2005 7:54:20 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: dubyaismypresident
Uh, that would be misspellinh. FReeper English is continually evolvinh, dontchaknow. This is hugh!

:^)

96 posted on 05/17/2005 7:54:54 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: arasina
"And Reid saying "negotiations are over" --- yer darned tootin' --- it's about time the majority did an 'all or nothing'!"

Yep, Rootin' Tootin' Raspberry, as a matter o' fact!

Encouraging, but I'll believe the "noo-you-ler option" when I see it with me own two eyes, and the GOP actually executes "Plan "A" of their judicial plan TO-A-TEE.

This Party has broken my heart too many times.

97 posted on 05/17/2005 7:54:57 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: prairiebreeze

ANNOUNCEMENT

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1404845/posts


98 posted on 05/17/2005 7:55:48 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: CWW

This guy is either a total moron or a complete self-serving panderer.

The issue here is whether or not the Constitution calls for a clear up or down vote on Presidential juridical appointees. Clearly it does as it states that a simple majority of Sentors will be necessary to confirm.

What is so difficult about that to understand?

Either the Constitution means what it says or it doesn't. There is no issue here upon which to compromise unless McCain thinks the minority party should get equla rights to select judicial appointees along with the majority party, which would truely be a novel idea.

How on earth can ANYONE take this guy seriously anymore? How on earth can he continue to get re-elected? Are they all brain dead in Arizona??


100 posted on 05/17/2005 7:56:16 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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