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Breakinh!-- McCain Admits He Does Not Have Votes for RINO Filibuster "Compromise"!
Reuters ^ | 05-17-05 | cww

Posted on 05/17/2005 7:11:09 AM PDT by CWW

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - On the eve of a high-stakes showdown, a key lawmaker said on Tuesday it was unclear if a group of bipartisan U.S. senators could strike a deal on President Bush's contested judicial nominees.

"It's hard to say. There's a lot of cross-pressures. There's a lot of activity on both extremes of the political spectrum," Sen. John McCain, an Arizona Republican, told CNN. "We'll know more today."

The Senate is to begin what's expected to be several days of debate on Wednesday on two of the seven appeals court candidates blocked by Democrats during the last Congress and then renominated by Bush after he won re-election in November.

Republicans have vowed that if Democrats again stop the nominees with procedural hurdles known as filibusters, they will move to ban such tactics on appeals court as well as U.S. Supreme Court nominees.

Republican leaders say they will have the 51 votes needed in the 100-member Senate to abolish such filibusters. But Democrats argue it is too close to call.

Efforts to find common ground persisted despite a breakdown in talks on Monday between Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican, and Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat.

McCain and Sen. Ben Nelson, a Nebraska Democrat, are leading an effort to attract a half dozen largely moderate senators from each party to a last ditch-compromise.

Their proposal would clear the way for votes on some of Bush's stalled judicial nominees while blocking others.

Under the proposal, Republicans would promise not to eliminate judicial filibusters through the end of next year, and Democrats would vow not to use such tactics against any circuit court or Supreme Court nominee except in "extreme circumstances."

Republicans hold 55 of 100 Senate seats. A simple majority is needed to confirm a nominee, but 60 votes are required to end a filibuster.

The aim of Nelson and McCain has been to provide six Democratic votes to clear the way for confirmation votes on some of the disputed nominees and six Republican votes to preserve the judicial filibuster. Nelson was confident he had enough Democrats on board, but was still working to attract a total of six Republicans, an aide said.

Talks between Frist and Reid ended following months of futile efforts to find common ground.

"The negotiations are over," Reid said. "I've tried to compromise (but) they want all or nothing, and I can't do that."

Frist said in a statement, "Republicans believe in the regular order of fair up and down votes and letting the Senate decide yes or no on judicial confirmations free from procedural gimmicks like the filibuster."


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: filibuster; mccain; mccrook; reidsnuclearreaction; rino; scarmable; ussenate
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To: Petronski
Are you correcting the misspelling of a misspelling?

technically, you are correct

41 posted on 05/17/2005 7:28:18 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (you can be whoever you want to be on the Internet)
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To: CWW

Breakinh?

Smokinh.


42 posted on 05/17/2005 7:29:16 AM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: dubyaismypresident

No, not a correction. I just think "scarmable" is more pathetic, and thus funnier.



SCARMABLE THE FIGHTERS, BANDITS INCOMINH!


43 posted on 05/17/2005 7:30:13 AM PDT by Petronski (Pope Benedict XVI: A German Shepherd on the Throne of Peter)
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To: CWW

I love it when McCain fails.


44 posted on 05/17/2005 7:30:22 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: CWW

GOOD!!!!!!


45 posted on 05/17/2005 7:30:38 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Terri Schindler was NOT in coma, JUSTICE was.....)
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To: Petronski

lol!


46 posted on 05/17/2005 7:31:29 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry ("Harry Reid in stripes, I kinda like that image." -Tagline courtesy of DFU. Thanks!)
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To: ElkGroveDan

But this is so very hugh!


47 posted on 05/17/2005 7:31:48 AM PDT by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)
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To: F16Fighter
McCain's boy-toy -- Chrissy Matthews -- must be deeply saddened at this turn of events.

I'm certainly not! And Reid saying "negotiations are over" --- yer darned tootin' --- it's about time the majority did an 'all or nothing'!

48 posted on 05/17/2005 7:32:17 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Petronski

I saw it last night, thought it was intentional. I still don't like it. People will think we are "becoming a nation of dumbies".


49 posted on 05/17/2005 7:32:22 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: onyx
Who does McCain have besides Chaffee?

Strongest is Snowe. Collins is a maybe. Others who have expressed a wish that it hadn't come to this are not a clear that they will vote against it. Even Frist says he wishes it hadn't come to this.

50 posted on 05/17/2005 7:32:33 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: ElkGroveDan
I always thought it was brakinh?

;-)

51 posted on 05/17/2005 7:33:26 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry ("Harry Reid in stripes, I kinda like that image." -Tagline courtesy of DFU. Thanks!)
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To: ElkGroveDan
People will think we are "becoming a nation of dumbies".

Well, clearly you do get it. LOL. I can respect liking it or not liking it, I was just offering an explanation.

52 posted on 05/17/2005 7:34:30 AM PDT by Petronski (Pope Benedict XVI: A German Shepherd on the Throne of Peter)
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To: Calpernia

McCain's getting on my last nerve.


53 posted on 05/17/2005 7:34:37 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: ElkGroveDan
"What is this Breakinh?

Is this some part of popular culture? I don't mind being hip and whatnot, but can we draw the line at proper spelling and grammar?

I sympathize with your point of view. The attractiveness of FR is due in part to its professionalism. We are somewhat relaxed about it though and have some words that are characteristically spelled "odd" such as "series" and "stuned".
Maybe someone more experienced here than I could publish a quick list of the excepted words. If we keep making exceptions "willy nilly" I am afeared we may end up looking like DU! Maybe there should be guidlines for accepting alternative spellings. But I probably shouldn't say too muc since I don't recall studying up on all the posting rules myself yet.
54 posted on 05/17/2005 7:34:39 AM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: blaquebyrd
"So what is Frist waiting for?"

Easy answer is: he is waiting for the next congress or the next President or the next decade or the next century. Anything to stave off making the press mad at him. Our Republican Senate majority has disintegrated into a Majority In Name Only.
55 posted on 05/17/2005 7:34:43 AM PDT by Bar-Face
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To: CWW
The good news is that InSane won't have to waste his time in Iowa or NH.

Pray for W and Our Troops

56 posted on 05/17/2005 7:34:53 AM PDT by bray (Pray for Iraq's Freedom from Mohammad)
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To: Semper Paratus
Call the rule change up today First!

As I understand it, there must be an ongoing filibuster for the nuclear option to be exercised. It may be that a cloture vote must take care first but don't hold me to that. In any case, the Dems will not allow a vote if they are going to lose. So, since the Pubbies appear to have the upper hand the Dems will either just stop filibustering for the moment or will settle for a deal that is highly favorable to the Republicans.

57 posted on 05/17/2005 7:35:18 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Cboldt


Snowe, OK. Collins is a maybe. Arlen wouldn't dare, would he?


58 posted on 05/17/2005 7:35:34 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: blaquebyrd
So what is Frist waiting for? Hasn't wasted enough time on this issue with all of his posturing and threats? Do it already! The longer he waits the weaker he looks.

Those are my thoughts. The only reason that Frist may be waiting is so that after the vote, Frist can say, "I gave the Democrats every chance to come up with a compromise so we wouldn't have to change the filibuster rule". Bush did the same thing with Saddam, giving Saddam every chance to avoid the Iraq war.

In the long run I don't think anyone is going care about whether Frist gave the Demos a chance to come up with compromise. Once the filibuster rule is amended it will be war between the Demos and Repubs in the Senate.

59 posted on 05/17/2005 7:35:59 AM PDT by Ticonderoga34
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To: ElkGroveDan

See my prior post -- It's my best televangelist voice. It's a southern thing.


60 posted on 05/17/2005 7:36:14 AM PDT by CWW (Mark Sanford for President on 2008!)
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