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Why Did Most Jewish Voters Reject President Bush in the 2004 Election?
May 17, 2004 | ComtedeMaistre

Posted on 05/17/2005 5:36:30 AM PDT by ComtedeMaistre

When he took office in the year 2001, President Bush began to make every effort to convince Jews that he was on their side. He did everything he could possibly do, to get Jews to vote Republican. Bush is the most pro-Israel President in American history. Indeed, 2004 was anticipated as the year when Jewish voters would vote majority Republican, for the first time since World War Two. But, once again, Jewish voters rejected the outstretched hand of a Republican Presidential candidate.

Kerry is the man who once called Yasser Arafat a statesman. And in 2004, Kerry worked in close partnership with the anti-Jewish black leader, Al Sharpton. The Democrats allied themselves with Islamic and Arab groups in 2004, in opposition to Bush's Middle East policies. In spite of all that, the overwhelming majority of Jews still voted for Kerry and the Democrats. Why is this so?


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To: iconoclast
Look at the mindset of the Culturally Liberal jewish voters who are the staunchest democrats. You can't understand the motives and reasoning of liberal jewish voters unless you realize that they know that they are destined to prevail, that they are the chosen people and are ordained by G_D to rule the world. (And they don't think much of turn the other cheek Christianity - it's for weaklings - the same sentiment held by muzzies too)

The Democrat party is a wholy owned and operated Jewish concern. And you don't throw in the towel when the going gets tough. Statistically, the house always wins in the end. Look at the Clinton Cabinet.

AND

There is no reason to vote Republican when you already own your own political party and are a hair's breadth away from winner take all.

The funny part is that the libs are so surprised that Bush won three million more legitimate votes than did Kerry. Even when the dead voted thrice, the best man won.

41 posted on 05/17/2005 7:25:59 AM PDT by Podkayne
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To: Ron in Acreage

Because Jews are the stupidist smart people in the world?


42 posted on 05/17/2005 7:28:55 AM PDT by mlmr (The Culture of Death will get a lot more deadly before it's done.)
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To: veronica
Then again, maybe I'll add one intelligent post, along with the answer which has been provided on FR many times before. They're a bunch of America hating, Christian hating, commies.

…………………….. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1206525/posts?page=41#41 I wince, inwardly, every time I see one of these "When, Oh When Will Those Silly Jews Ever LEARN?" stories posted here, as they inevitably serve as the dog whistle for every no-neck know-nothing within a five hundred megabyte radius to come a-runnin'. We then are "treated" (not actually the word I had in mind, but Jim doesn't approve of cursing on the boards) to pig-ignorant postings to the effect of "Them thar Jooos, they'd vote fer Hitler, if'n he were a Democrat, hyuck-hyuck-hyuck," and similarly constituted blatherings.

Kiddies: just a wee little bit of historical perspective here, all right? Yeah, absolutely, GWB may well qualify as the single staunchest friend Israel has ever known, White House-wise... but: for way, way too may decades prior to this one, the Republican Party enjoyed an all-too-well deserved reputation as the party of naked and unapologetic anti-semitism; and that's NOT the sort of rep it's going to suddenly "lose," overnight, solely on the strength of GWB's good works alone.

Nixon's numerous weird "issues" with us are a matter of public record. Pat Buchanan -- long a powerful mover and shaker within the party -- was (and still is) even more rabid and foaming. Jews make a point of remembering those who openly and expressly wish them ill, no less than any other group; and some (many, most likely) may NEVER feel entirely comfortable with the party, as a result of such ugliness and hatred in the past.

What you're witnessing, here, is a generational transformation: younger Jews trending more and more conservative, politically, over the last twenty years (and continuing to do so), replacing in prominence (and voting numbers) older Jews, as the latter pass from the scene.

Newsflash: generational changes, by definition, take at least one generation to take effect. Staring impatiently at your wristwatch and muttering "... what's taking then so damned long, anyway?" won't speed up the process one bit; and the slack-jawed nitwiticisms on unfortunate display here (comparing Jews to sheep, dogs, etc.) only serve to retard the process further still. Large, steaming mugs of STFU need to be passed around to, and promptly chugged down by, more than one poster herabouts whose fingers move faster than his/her brain.

< /rant> ………………………

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1249752/posts?page=44

American Jews have a death wish.

Jews in america hate america and see the US as the cause for all that's wrong in the world.

the jews in America would rather be in control of the wrong party, than be foot soldiers in the right one.

Did you know that not all Jews in NAZI Germany were locked up? Some worked with the NAZI's to further the Socialist agenda.

It's easier for American jews to stay in the DNC Ghetto than summon up the mental energy required to leave.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1227537/posts?q=1&&page=1

Think Again: God-phobic Jews

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1192537/posts

Yeah... maybe there IS no good reason... American Jews and American Muslims are both in bed with the Democrats,,, screw 'em both

Jews also overwhelmingly supported Stalin. I guess political stupidity is hardwired into the Jewish mind.

Given the choice between voting Republican and lining up to catch a train for Auschwitz, most American Jews would fight for a place in line for the train so long as Hillary Clinton was punching their tickets. It's the lemming vote.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1193284/posts

How could such an educated and responsible group of people be so politically stupid for so long?

Please dont take this as being Anti -Semitic, but if 76% of American jews like Kerry over Bush there are some dumb-assed American jews.

You know something? It will serve them right if something really horrible happens to Israel if Kerry gets elected. Sad to say but sometimes people need a painfull reminder of who their real friends are.

Are Jews more anti-Christian than pro-Israel?

It is as amazing to me that Jews would vote for the party of anti-Semitism as it is that blacks vote the party of racism.

I can't stand how they want their cake and eat it too. Let these groups finally bear the consequences of their actions. We are damned if we do, damned if we don't. If these groups don't have negative consequences put upon them by their choices, then they will continue to support Democrats at no cost to their pork.

Well isn't this a kick in the junk! If they got their wish it would be hard to feel any empathy for the adverse consequenses they would suffer.

They seem determined to aid their own destruction. They seem to enjoy misery as away to exist.

I wonder if they felt the same way about Hitler?

And that racist blacks who hate them [Jews] vote in a democrat block also.

The Jews have been on the wrong side of history ever since the Exodus. So this shouldn't surprise anyone.

Not at all surprising to me. American liberal Jews are suicidal in the extreme. While they do not profess a hatred of Israel their actions tend to be more anti-Israel and anti-Jewish than any "hate" group I can think of. They support Nazi-style gun bans, a Nazi-style police state, Nazi-style propaganda (Jews own or control over 70% of mass media outlets...just a statistical fact folks, not me being a Nazi okay?), and Nazi-style socialism (government 'partnering' with private industry for the 'common good').

The devil has decieved them. They are blinded because of their unbelief.

If Bush Wins in November, then he should abide by the wishes of the Jewish voters and minimize support for Israel and make sure the hard working American tax dollars are completely cutoff from Israel. All aid to Israel should end. It is disgusting the tribe mentality of so many groups. I really have just now changed my view of American taxpayer support of Israel.

There is an extreme hatred/fear of Christians and Christianity among most American Jews that never really becomes obvious until something or someone Christian threatens to bubble up to the mainstream….That much is fact. I'm sure the reasons for it are more complex than I can guess at. It is ironic that if Christianity met the doom that most Jews wish for it that their own doom would swiftly follow.

the majority of Jews believe that in 1920 an organization known as the Muslim Brotherhood which is the original AQ and Arab Nazis was working with Hitler. It became the official policy of the The Third Reich to secretly develop the Muslim Brotherhood as the fifth Parliament, an army inside Egypt. After WWII they moved to Saudi Arabia at which time BinLaden became interested. They also believe the CIA is an arm of this secret society which hates Jews. On top of it all they believe Bush 41 and 43 are also involved and support the Muslim Brotherhood.

A Christianity that is hidden and without influence ( as clearly most American Jews prefer ) is in no position to guard against what the rest of the world desires for the Jews.

what I say is......let them face the consequences..... objectively, the Jews of America are all about money, period, with an occassional indignation for some percieved injustice, just so they can claim some civil right infringement.....

THE ONLY REASON I CAN SEE WHY AMERICAN JEWS VOTE THE WAY THEY DO IS THAT THEY PURSUE MONEY ISSUES ABOVE ALL ELSE....

Documented accounts of Jews who helped Hitler and the Nazis

For some damn reason, the Majority of Jews in this country are leftists, and leftists DESPISE Christianity and since Bush is a Devout Christian, they DESPISE him!!

Politically, as a group, the U.S. Jews are disgusting

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1196300/posts

This is disgusting. Bush (and 140,000 American soldiers, 900+dead), saved the Israeli Army from a "death march" across Jordan and Iraq to Baghdad in an effort to stop Husseins money funding suicide bombers. The only other alternative was to "Nuke" Baghdad, but Damascus, Cairo, Riyadh and Tehran, would have to follow.

This is an ugly and insensitive question, but: Did German Jews vote, overwhelmingly, for Hitler in 1932? I hope not, but sometimes I have to wonder.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1223775/posts?page=36 Jews are more afraid of Bible-believing Christians than they are of Koran-believing Muslims. Someday they'll regret that...

I don't believe that we can escape the conclusion that the majority of US Jews (and most US Jews are Democrats) are anti-Israel, or at least are not pro-Israel...US Jews to Israel..."Drop Dead"

When the fight comes for Israel, guess who they will beg to come save them??????... Anyone that does not agree with their ideas and agendas. Remember communism?

Those who forget history or who twist it around to meet their needs are forever condemned to relive it. Same problem in Spain after the moors capitulated at Granada in 1492. The Islamics had lots of covert Jewish support since the Jews saw themselves playing the ends against the middle, Sort of like eternal bookies - playing nice to both sides. That got them into trouble.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1224213/posts?page=36

Wow..espousing religious freedom, and then in the very next breath stating how you wish to enforce the values of Judaism in civic life, and then insinuating that you wish to extend Judaism in the judicial system to "all persons". ..Sorry pal, but America is by and large a Christian nation, not a Jewish one... Go back to the middle east with the Mooslims.

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American Jews living in Israel overwhelmingly support President Bush. Jews in America overwhelming support Democrats. Why?
Just one of my opinions: Jews in Israel fear Muslims more than Christians. Jews in America fear Christians more than Muslims.

Jews in america hate america and see the US as the cause for all that's wrong in the world.

It makes sense--"US Jews to Israel: Drop Dead."

Did you know that not all Jews in NAZI Germany were locked up? Some worked with the NAZI's to further the Socialist agenda.

Most Jewish professionals tend to be lawyers

I guess American Jews are just selfish and don't give a darn about their brethren in Israel.

One word folk, A B O R T I O N!!!

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Here; Vote for This you JEWS, you love your Kerry more than your country??? Hey Barbara S. (you yenti), where are you??? 6 million isn`t enough, you want 6 million more??? You bit*h!

Before any of you American Jews call me Antisemitic, I will let you know, I am a Jew!

You Communists! You self haters! You murderers!

Your grandfathers probably said "Oh sHitler won`t harm German Jews...6 million later..." Hey Barbara - it`s nice to have millions and live a comfortable life - you senile piece of garbage, you and your drugged out - sexed out Hollywood murderers!

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Ameican Jews repay Bush's good deeds, loyalty and unwavering support with a kick in the teeth at every turn. And you know what? After Bush is re-elected he will still do the right thing. That is what honorable, men of character do. My only request to Ameican Jews is: Why do you treat your friends so poorly?

I wonder why coerceing tax money(in the form of US foreign aid) to give to Israel is not seen as a violation of the strict separation of church and state from the perspective of liberal Jews....hmmmmmm...

Nobody here is knocking all Jews...Howard Phillips is a wonderful America First Orthodox Jew..HOWEVER, it does appear that just like so many Mexicans think of America as just another state of Mexico,too many Jews think of Israel as the 51st State....

teh problem ws the worst jews of europe were the ones who came in large numbers at the turn of the last century. the most committed jews stayed in europe and largly perished. the small orthodox community in the us today is largely survivors. during the holocaust the american community was AWOL. they were AWOL then theyu were largly awol during the soviet jewery issue of the 70's and would rather save roev.wade than israel. the wrong 6 million.

I have waited for many years and through many elections for Jews in America to take a patriotic stand, but, alas, they have not. I don't know what to make of that. It seems as if they have a need to betray the ones who have best supported them.

43 posted on 05/17/2005 7:39:08 AM PDT by SJackson (The first duty of a leader is to make himself be loved without courting love, Andre Malraux)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1402103/posts
Liberal Jews are clueless - (Jackie Mason & Raoul Felder; masterful analysis!)
WORLD NET DAILY.COM

MAY 12, 2005 | JACKIE MASON & RAOUL FELDER





If the Jews know better than anybody else what kind of an unbalanced mind it takes to produce the sickness of prejudice, why do Jews so comfortably practice it themselves by making any member of the Republican Party a special target of prejudice – especially someone who is recognized as a far-right Republican?

Somehow, Jews have always been enraptured by the words "liberal" or "Democrat." We convinced ourselves that the words "liberal" and "Jew" are a package made in heaven, ordained by God like a marriage, consecrated until death do us part. Love may be blind, but it does not have to also be deaf and dumb, which it must be not to recognize the contempt and prejudice of many liberals toward the Jewish people.

The story of Harry Truman is a perfect example. Jews are still blinded from the reality of Harry Truman's real character, possessed by a romanticized version of his love for the Jewish people. Whenever a Jew opened his mouth, the story of Truman's Jewish partner in the Haberdashery business came flying through his teeth.

The fact is Truman not only found Jews distasteful and repulsive, but he even thought of his Jewish partner as a burden he had to bear because Truman couldn't find any gentile in town who would trust him with his cash. It is a historical fact that Truman never invited his partner to his home, never even asked him if he was happy or healthy – he only cared if his hand could move enough to sign a check.

The vulgarity of the language with which Truman reacted to Jacobson's pleas about the recognition of Israel would add up to enough filthy words to produce five pornographic movies. Most Jews are familiar with this story, but since love is blind, even if you could identify and prove every word of it they would still be too blind to believe it.

But as inconceivable as the Jewish love affair was with President Truman, love is never more blind in the persistent worship of the Jews at the altar of Franklin D. Roosevelt. In this case, their love was not only blind, it also defied reason. Hitler was determined to kill the Jews, but many Jews needlessly died because Roosevelt totally ignored their plight and, in some cases, even helped Hitler to do it.

When Jews were fleeing the death chambers in Germany toward the borders of America, it was the heartlessness of Franklin D. Roosevelt that forced them back to their destruction. Whenever Jews in America were aroused about Roosevelt's callousness to their fate, he reacted as if he were a mindless robot who couldn't see them or hear them, as if the murder of the Jews was comparable to killing cockroaches in the kitchen.

His impatience with the persistence of Jewish complaints became so great that, in an uncontrollable rage, he even attacked Robert Morganthau, his Jewish secretary of the Treasury, yelling that Jews should stop complaining because he felt Jews should thank God they were allowed to live in America without suffering the fate of the Jews in Germany.

Why does the history of the anti-Semitic inhumanities of Presidents Roosevelt and Truman have no effect on the Jewish love affair with the Democratic Party? Why do they ignore the contempt of these presidents for the lives of Jews? Obviously, it is because Jews worship the Democratic Party as crusaders for the underprivileged.

And because the Jew spends his life fighting for acceptance and respect by making more and more money so that he can have the longest boat, the most modern kitchen, the most marbled toilets, the deepest swimming pool, the biggest house with the highest ceiling, he is tormented by a guilt-ridden conscience that taught him a good Jew does not spend his life pursuing greed and opportunism, and that a selfish life is a wasted one.

Because a Jew is always struggling to overcome his fear of worthlessness, he spends his time finding ways to prove he not only has a big fortune, but that he has an even bigger heart. That is why when he gives to charities, such as a hospital that will put his name on it. He becomes a member of a club where there are special events where his charity will be announced. He joins a temple were a rabbi will give him a special seat next to the Holy Torah.

His main ambition is to become rich enough to give so much to charity that he will be asked to be the main speaker at a dinner in his honor, where pictures of him will be taken all night so he can look at them the rest of his life to remind himself that he made money not for himself, but because of his compassion and selfless devotion to humanitarian causes.

To avoid any connection to his materialistic values, he has to reject and even hate the Republicans. To think of any connection with a far-right Republican frightens him more than a firing squad in Saudi Arabia. That is why when far-right Republicans dedicate themselves to fight for the survival of Israel – and even have to overcome Democratic Party opposition to what they consider to be the biblical, God-given right of the Jewish people to possess the Holy Land – they are met with suspicion, as though they were building a smoke screen for their basic anti-Semitism, instead of being met with appreciation and applause.

The Jews have achieved a lopsided self-destructive direction because of their blind love for the Democrats – they are married to a party that cares little or nothing about the Jews here or in the state of Israel.


44 posted on 05/17/2005 7:43:52 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Because Jewish politics are typically liberal.


45 posted on 05/17/2005 7:55:43 AM PDT by jimt
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To: shekkian
The same FDR who turned away a shipload of Holocaust refugees and sent them back to Europe.

FDR would have let them in, but he was viscerally opposed by southern Democrats and isolationists in the Senate who didn't want the refugees coming into their country.
46 posted on 05/17/2005 7:57:27 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Perhaps because most American Jews are more liberal than Jewish.


47 posted on 05/17/2005 8:06:08 AM PDT by quadrant
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Because they are much more frightened of conservative Christians than militant Muslims. It doesn't have to make sense...


48 posted on 05/17/2005 8:08:37 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Roccus

No--you're wrong.
Damato is Republican and Schumer is Democrat that's why!!!!!


49 posted on 05/17/2005 8:10:00 AM PDT by Betteboop
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To: kailbo
Tradition!

50 posted on 05/17/2005 8:11:43 AM PDT by evets (God bless President Bush and VP Cheney)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
According to my Jewish friend at work, Jews believe that Bush and the GOP will soon begin outlawing Judeaism(sp?) and will force all to become born again evangelicals.

When I asked my friend if he had one single snipped of proof, he balked and changed the subject.

His departing comment as he walked away was that he couldn't stand having a devout Christian as President.

51 posted on 05/17/2005 8:16:00 AM PDT by Edit35
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To: Puppage

My girldfriend is Jewish, my best friend is Jewish, my best friend from law school is Jewish. I know the whole thing ridiculously well.


52 posted on 05/17/2005 8:35:46 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: Betteboop

Then we agree to dis-agree.


53 posted on 05/17/2005 8:37:01 AM PDT by Roccus (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: MojoWire

"Prayer in schools" freaks Jews out. Anyone in their mid-50s or older remembers having to say Christian-themed prayers in school. There's a good reason why President Bush does NOT dwell on that particular issue, but other conservatives do feel it's important.


54 posted on 05/17/2005 8:52:45 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: ComtedeMaistre

The Jewish vote has been owned by the Democratic party for years, simply because most Jews have agreed with liberal positions. Their loyalty is not going to change because of position taken by Bush on Israel because they instinctively reject anyone from the conservative side.

Despite their reputation for free enterprise, there has always been a sizeable number, perhaps a majority, of Jews who support state socialism as a theory.


55 posted on 05/17/2005 9:05:25 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: HostileTerritory

I remember my 3rd grade teacher (1963) Mr.Sklaroff, who refused to say "under God" during the Pledge of A.

For those two seconds, his big booming voice went eerily missing amongst all these high pitched 8 year olds.

I also remember saying the 23rd Psalm, and occasionally the Lord's Prayer. "My Father who art in heaven...." in public school.


56 posted on 05/18/2005 5:28:39 AM PDT by Edit35
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