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Sniffing Out the Gay Gene
NY Times Op-Ed ^ | May 17, 2005 | STEVEN PINKER

Posted on 05/17/2005 3:06:04 AM PDT by Pharmboy

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He raises a lot of interesting points. Since this subject is often discussed on these boards, I thought it would be reasonable to put it up.
1 posted on 05/17/2005 3:06:05 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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Gay men generally report that their homosexual attractions began as soon as they felt sexual stirrings before adolescence

I bet about the time they spent alone with Mr. Happy. Pavlovian bells start ringing early.

2 posted on 05/17/2005 3:11:43 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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3 posted on 05/17/2005 3:12:13 AM PDT by Cindy
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I have a very dear friend who is a lesbian. To look at her, you couldn't think she would or could be anything else.


4 posted on 05/17/2005 3:16:54 AM PDT by ktvaughn
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5 posted on 05/17/2005 3:17:46 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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How do they explain the high correlation between homosexuality and abusive fathers, then? Do fathers have a genetic tendency to beat the crap out of fairy sons?


6 posted on 05/17/2005 3:19:14 AM PDT by thoughtomator (A government-funded artist is an incompetent whore)
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Or maybe that's how the father deals with his own genetic 'tendencies'. Just a thought...


7 posted on 05/17/2005 3:28:19 AM PDT by DB (©)
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After they "sniff out" the gay gene, they should "snuff out" the gay gene.


8 posted on 05/17/2005 3:28:58 AM PDT by Randy Papadoo (Not going so good? Just kick somebody's a$$. You'll feel a lot better!)
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No wonder they are mean and nasty, and have a big Jealous streak.
9 posted on 05/17/2005 3:35:07 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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Absolutely!
IF there is a gay gene, we should eliminate it just like we try to do with other birth defects.

I know...we can start a ribbon campaign and collect money for research! Lets see...yeah....brown ribbons..


10 posted on 05/17/2005 3:37:31 AM PDT by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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I love articles like this because the authors,in an effort to placate the homosexual lobby, invariably twist themselves into an intellectual knot.

A few comments:

"People often confuse their own revulsion with objective sinfulness, as when they dehumanize people living in squalor or, in the other direction, engage in religious rituals of cleanliness and purification."

Umm, no not really. People of faith view homosexuality as sinful because the tenets of their faith instruct them to do so. Memo to the NYT:see the Holy Bible,Book of Leviticus, chapter 18,verse 22.


"Some gay groups condemn such research because it could stigmatize gay people as defective and lead to a day in which parents could selectively abort children with "gay genes."


Actually what the gay groups have to "worry" about if a "gay gene" is found is not the abortion of unborn gay babies, especially from people of faith, but of genetic therapies that eliminate the tendancy all together



Others welcome the research because it shows that people don't "choose" to be gay and hence can't be criticized for it, nor could homosexuals convert the children in their classrooms or Scout troops even if they wanted to"


While a few parents may indeed worry that a gay scoutmaster might "convert" their child, the far larger percentage worry that the gay scoutmaster would molest their young son as happened here some years back before good background checks were done.


For years, social conservatives fought the idea that homosexuality could be biologically or genetically based. Actually, that's the better of the two outcomes because if it is a physical defect, it is eventually curable as we know more and more about genetic therapy.


11 posted on 05/17/2005 3:38:48 AM PDT by Neville72
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I dont doubt that there may be a gay gene, I just doubt that all gay people have it. Many of them have been recruited by other gays and many have become gay due to some overt act pulled on them by an older fruit.I have never spoken to a lesbian about her being gay without discovering something back in their experience that got them haitng men. Mostly its a father who abused the mother.


12 posted on 05/17/2005 3:43:55 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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IF there is a gay gene, we should eliminate it just like we try to do with other birth defects.

The "gay gene" (if it exists) is probably very very useful to the human race or evolution should have snuffed it out a long time ago.

Women and men are remarkably similar until sex differentiation takes place. Homo men are likely to be men where the differentiention process went biochemically (and not genetically) awry.

13 posted on 05/17/2005 4:06:36 AM PDT by staytrue
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I agree that it may be biochemical.
I don't know if there has been enough time to weed out a gene that occurs only 10% or less in a population. That would seem to make a case for its demise: were it genetic and advantageous, it would occur with more frequency. OTH, we are still born with an apendix...evolution hasn't weeded that out.


14 posted on 05/17/2005 4:12:19 AM PDT by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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Here is an example where I would approve of aborting the gay gene .


15 posted on 05/17/2005 4:19:47 AM PDT by lionheart 247365 (( Senator Byrd ,, it's time for your nap now .. .. .. ))
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I don't suppose it's possible that they are merely reacting to the smells that they have found their pleasure in???


16 posted on 05/17/2005 4:27:47 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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Yep-and studies several years ago found feral cats had brains that were different than domestic cats. The suggestion was that this proved homosexuals were not like
the rest of us -but couldn't help making those destructive
behavioral choices. PRoblem is --just like this smell test
junk science has NOT proven that homosexuals smell different from conception to the grave. But this so called
scientific evidence does smell and it no more passes the smell test than some old and foul smelling wind in a small
chapel.


17 posted on 05/17/2005 4:39:07 AM PDT by StonyBurk
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I thing gay men just bathe more.


18 posted on 05/17/2005 4:44:37 AM PDT by keats5
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The day they find a "gay gene" is the day the militant homosexual lobby become "pro-life"...
19 posted on 05/17/2005 4:48:18 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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I have been posting for years the theory that the identification of a gay gene will end Roe v. Wade and the democrats. Gay-gene abortions will be a given. Gay demands to protect gay unborn will follow. The fems will say no unborn have rights. The Dems will implode.


20 posted on 05/17/2005 4:56:08 AM PDT by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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