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Muslim double standard on religious desecration?
World Net Daily ^ | May 17, 2005 | Aaron Klein

Posted on 05/16/2005 10:56:07 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie

Islamic world blasted for protesting Quran 'story,' silence on Jewish incidents

JERUSALEM – With Muslims worldwide protesting a now-retracted Newsweek report that claimed U.S. Army interrogators at Guantanamo Bay had flushed a Quran down the toilet, the father of a rabbi who was murdered while trying to defend a Jewish holy site from Palestinian rioters blasted Muslim leaders yesterday in an exclusive WorldNetDaily interview.

Rabbi Zevulun Lieberman, whose son Hillel died trying to save Joseph's Tomb in the West Bank city of Nablus from Muslim rioters, told WND he is "sickened by this Muslim outcry when Muslims have shown the world they don't have any respect for religion whatsoever. They lost the right to protest about disrespect for religion and holy objects a long time ago."

Accusing Muslim leadership of using the Newsweek story to create "anti-American incitement," Lieberman asked, "Where were the protesters when Muslims desecrated Joseph's Tomb and other sites?"

In an issue dated May 9, Newsweek reported U.S. military investigators found evidence that interrogators placed copies of Islam's holy book in washrooms and had flushed one down the toilet to get inmates to talk.

The report prompted demonstrations across the Muslim world, with thousands rallying in Afghanistan, Pakistan Indonesia and Gaza City to denounce America. At least 15 people died in riots in Afghanistan alone.

Yesterday, Newsweek officially retracted the story.

Lebanon's most senior Shiite Muslim cleric said the alleged desecration is part of an American campaign aimed at disrespecting and smearing Islam. Spiritual leaders in Afghanistan gave the U.S. three days to respond to the accusations. The 22-nation Arab League issued a statement saying if the allegations panned out, Washington should apologize to Muslims.

Qazi Hussain Ahmed, a hard-line Pakistani Islamist leader and opposition lawmaker, said Islamic groups in Pakistan, Egypt, Malaysia, Britain, Turkey and other countries would hold more rallies to protest the alleged desecration.

In its retraction, Newsweek stated, "Based on what we know now, we are retracting our original story that an internal military investigation had uncovered Quran abuse at Guantanamo Bay."

In a note to readers in its current issue, Newsweek Editor Mark Whitaker said the magazine's information came from "a knowledgeable U.S. government source," who, he said, later could not be sure he had read about the alleged Quran incident in the report that was cited.

Tomb desecrated

In October 2000, after Israeli troops evacuated the city of Nablus as a peacemaking gesture, scores of Palestinians stormed into the Joseph's Tomb compound and destroyed the site believed to be the burial place of the biblical patriarch Joseph – the son of Jacob who was sold by his brothers into slavery and later became the viceroy of Egypt.

The 1993 Oslo Accords put Joseph's Tomb under Israeli jurisdiction, but on Oct. 7, 2000, then-Prime Minister Ehud Barak ordered a unilateral retreat, based on a Palestinian agreement to protect the site.

Within hours of the Israeli withdrawal, smoke was seen billowing from the tomb as an Arab crowd burned Jewish prayer books and other holy objects. Palestinians used pickaxes, hammers and later bulldozers to tear apart the stone building. The dome of the tomb was painted green, and a mosque was subsequently erected in its place.

Destroyed gravestone at traditional burial site for biblical patriarch Joseph.

Rabbi Hillel Lieberman, who lived nearby, headed by foot to the tomb when he heard of its desecration, hoping, his family said, to save any Torah scrolls or other holy objects that might have been left intact.

Lieberman disappeared. His bullet-ridden body was found the next day in a cave.

"[Hillel] was unarmed, wearing a tallit (Jewish prayer shawl), and he was brutally murdered by our enemies who want to erase our existence," said Yehudit Tayar, spokeswoman for the Council of Jewish Communities in Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip.

Hillel's father, Zevulun, a religious instructor at Yeshiva University, told WND: "If indeed the Quran was flushed down the toilet, that is despicable. But now they protest? The religion that actually desecrated the grave of Joseph, the great-grandson of Abraham?

"Nowhere in the parameters of humanity is it tolerable to destroy a holy site. The Muslims did something even an animal wouldn't do. Only humans who are completely sick with no sense of reason can do such a thing. And only a religion that is beyond the pale of humanity can sit back and not protest such an act."

Lieberman accused Islamic leaders of using the Newsweek article to spur anti-American incitement: "These leaders, who have no conscience, they aren't upset for religious reasons. It's just an excuse."

Building at Joseph's Tomb site after Palestinian Authority took control.

Susan Roth, director of the Eshet Chayil Foundation, one of the main benefactors of the biblical matriarch Rachel's Tomb, to which surviving artifacts of Joseph's Tomb were recently transferred, told WND: "There was almost total silence in the Muslim world when Palestinians blew up Jews at their Passover seder, when Joseph's tomb was desecrated, and even overall with regard to terrorism."

Roth was referring to a Hamas suicide bombing March 2002 that killed 30 and injured 140 when a bomb was exploded in the midst of a Passover seder at an Israeli hotel. Nathan Katz, professor of religion at Florida International University, told WorldNetDaily: "Joseph's tomb is one of many, many examples of a lack of Muslim respect for religious sites and objects, and the silence of Islamic leaders following such desecrations."

He cited the desecration of the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem by Palestinian gunmen in April 2002, and the dynamiting of 2,000-year old giant Buddhist statues at Bamian, Afghanistan, by the Taliban regime in March 2001.

"In fact, those statues, destroyed by the Taliban, were first defaced when the Arabs came to Afghanistan in the late seventh and early eighth century. They cut the faces off the statues then. Later, the Taliban completely wrecked them. Like Joseph's Tomb, the Muslims were largely silent."

Israeli archeologists say they have convincing documentation of the authenticity of Joseph's Tomb's, dating to biblical times. The book of Joshua says, according to the New International Version, "Joseph's bones, which the Israelites had brought up from Egypt, were buried at Shechem (Nablus) in the tract of land that Jacob bought for a hundred pieces of silver from the sons of Hamor, the father of Shechem. This became the inheritance of Joseph's descendants."

Said Daniel Pipes, director of the Middle East Forum: "This sequence of events reflects badly on everyone concerned: Newsweek, a stalwart of mainstream media, that can neither get its facts right nor its apology convincing; the U.S. government, which talked about the 'Holy Quran,' thereby falling into its old pattern of promoting Islam; and the Muslim masses, which took to the streets in lethal anger on nothing more than unconfirmed (and latterly rescinded) hearsay. This episode contains within it many lessons; let us hope they are properly learned."

"Either Muslims respect religion," Leiberman said, "and they protest their own intolerable and repeated desecrations, or they don't. They can't have it both ways."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: doublestandard; guantanamobay; korandesecration; muslims; newsweek; quran
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To: Gum Shoe

and according to some priests they used the Bible(ripping out pages)for toilet paper!!


21 posted on 05/17/2005 3:19:52 PM PDT by rang1995 (They will love us when we win)
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To: 26lemoncharlie; TexKat; blackie; gatorbait; Gucho; LadyPilgrim; NYer; jb6; Destro; Salvation; ...

""the father of a rabbi who was murdered while trying to defend a Jewish holy site from Palestinian rioters blasted Muslim leaders yesterday in an exclusive WorldNetDaily interview.

Rabbi Zevulun Lieberman, whose son Hillel died trying to save Joseph's Tomb in the West Bank city of Nablus from Muslim rioters, told WND he is "sickened by this Muslim outcry when Muslims have shown the world they don't have any respect for religion whatsoever. They lost the right to protest about disrespect for religion and holy objects a long time ago."

Accusing Muslim leadership of using the Newsweek story to create "anti-American incitement," Lieberman asked, "Where were the protesters when Muslims desecrated Joseph's Tomb and other sites?""


22 posted on 05/17/2005 3:24:38 PM PDT by anonymoussierra (Amicitiae nostrae memoriam spero sempiternam fore -"Love is the essence of life. Robert Mackay")
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To: Cornpone

Ping Thank you


23 posted on 05/17/2005 3:29:35 PM PDT by anonymoussierra (Amicitiae nostrae memoriam spero sempiternam fore -"Love is the essence of life. Robert Mackay")
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
24 posted on 05/17/2005 3:53:37 PM PDT by SJackson (I don't think the red-tiled roofs are as sturdy as my asbestos one, Palestinian refugee)
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To: anonymoussierra
Lieberman asked, "Where were the protesters when Muslims desecrated Joseph's Tomb and other sites?"


Yes, I agree - "Where were the protesters when Muslims desecrated Joseph's Tomb and other sites?"
25 posted on 05/17/2005 4:13:49 PM PDT by Gucho
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To: Andy from Beaverton; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; Happy2BMe; Boazo; OXENinFLA; ...
If I have the whole sad story straight. Kosovo was Secretary of State Madeline Albright's war, under the Clinton administration, that gave Islamofacists a victory and stronger foothold in the Balkans?
26 posted on 05/17/2005 4:14:17 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Gucho

Thank you!!!!!


27 posted on 05/17/2005 4:15:54 PM PDT by anonymoussierra (Amicitiae nostrae memoriam spero sempiternam fore -"Love is the essence of life. Robert Mackay")
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To: anonymoussierra

Bump


28 posted on 05/17/2005 4:35:55 PM PDT by Gucho
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To: Smartass

thanks for the ping...altho you have guided me to yet another thread that has enraged me.....


29 posted on 05/17/2005 7:11:18 PM PDT by bitt ("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
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To: bitt
What couldn't be won during the Ottoman Empire, was allowed by America's great big stupid DemoRats.
30 posted on 05/17/2005 7:18:51 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Smartass

'zackle.


31 posted on 05/17/2005 7:39:18 PM PDT by bitt ("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
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To: Smartass

My husband always complained that the US was helping Muslims fight the Christians.


32 posted on 05/17/2005 9:30:58 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch
He's right. Among a few places, it happened in Afghanistan, Bosnia, and Kosovo. I won't ever be convinced that killing people is an answer to solutions, Nor do I believe we should help future killers. Sometimes, we as a country, should just stay out of things we don't understand and let civilization take it's course!
33 posted on 05/17/2005 9:54:34 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Smartass

I think you're right. Sometimes I wish we wouldn't be the ones to have to 'fix' every other countrys problems. Especially when no one is ever grateful for what we do.

We need to stick to our own continent and fix things here. I know there could be a lot of 'flames' thrown at that idea!


34 posted on 05/17/2005 10:08:35 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch
Well, you can't really be an isolationist. However, you're absolutely correct about being the world fix-it man. But, we have to keep our noses out of so many things.
35 posted on 05/17/2005 10:24:16 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

bttt


36 posted on 05/17/2005 10:25:59 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Smartass

LOL, we aren't going to solve the world problems tonight and I've got to get to bed. Something is wrong with my sound on my computer and I can't hear the pager anymore!!

See you tomorrow night SmartA!


37 posted on 05/17/2005 10:30:28 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch

I'm keeping one on the City of Los Angeles mayorial election. Looks like L.A. will getting a new Hispanic mayor! A crook gets bounced, while on the other hand, Illegals will be jumping with joy. Another illegal safe city.


38 posted on 05/17/2005 10:31:32 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

Glad you brought that up. Muslims torch churches and cathedrals regularly. They desecrate shrines all the time.


39 posted on 05/17/2005 10:37:49 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: Cornpone; Salem; Bombardier; NYer; Mark in the Old South; Pyro7480

Ping!


40 posted on 05/18/2005 5:16:19 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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