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Mexico's Fox Defends Comments About Blacks
AP ^ | 5/16/5 | TRACI CARL

Posted on 05/16/2005 12:03:11 PM PDT by SmithL

MEXICO CITY -- President Vicente Fox refused to apologize Monday for saying Mexicans in the United States do the work that blacks won't — a comment widely viewed as acceptable in a country where blackface comedy is still considered funny and nicknames often reflect skin color.

State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City had raised the issue with the Mexican government. "That's a very insensitive and inappropriate way to phrase this and we would hope that (the Mexicans) would clarify the remarks if they have a chance," Boucher said.

Fox's spokesman, Ruben Aguilar, said Mexican and foreign news media have misinterpreted the remark as a racial slur. He said the president was speaking in defense of Mexican migrants as they come under attack by the new U.S. immigration measures that include a wall along the U.S.-California border.

Stung by the U.S. crackdown on illegal immigrants, many Mexicans — including Mexico City's archbishop — said Fox was just stating a fact.

"The president was just telling the truth," . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; culture; fox; illegalaliens; illegals; mexicanracist; outfoxed; racist; vicentefox
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To: sandydipper


HUH?


61 posted on 05/16/2005 1:29:47 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: cyborg

Someone tell me what was wrong with what Fox said? The truth stands on it own. Let's see what kind of work ethic are young black men and women displaying to the rest of the world?


62 posted on 05/16/2005 1:33:59 PM PDT by Warrior Nurse (Black & white liberals practice intellectual apartheid when it comes to black conservatives!)
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To: SmithL; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; devolve; CHARLITE; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; ...
AUNT JEMIMAH STILL DOING COMMERCIALS IN MEXICO?

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President Vicente Fox refused to apologize Monday for saying Mexicans in the United States do the work that blacks won't — a comment widely viewed as acceptable in a country where blackface comedy is still considered funny and nicknames often reflect skin color.

63 posted on 05/16/2005 1:35:40 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Warrior Nurse

Based on what is broadcast around the world in rap videos? That's hardly representative. Vicente Fox knows exactly what he's saying.


64 posted on 05/16/2005 1:36:21 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: cyborg

With a 70% illiteracy and illigetamacy rates my fellow black Americans have a problem with world perception. Yes there are productive black people in America and Vincete Fox is a Coconut Brown on the outside but white on the inside Mexican.


65 posted on 05/16/2005 1:39:59 PM PDT by Warrior Nurse (Black & white liberals practice intellectual apartheid when it comes to black conservatives!)
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To: Warrior Nurse

Unfortunately, no one is going to call him out on why the Mexicans of a darker hue are trying any which way to get across the border. My guess on Vicente Fox's work ethnic is that he has none.


66 posted on 05/16/2005 1:43:47 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: brownsfan

>I'm with you on that one! But, neither of us is making millions on the use of such labor, so I guess we don't get a say in it.<

Do you shop at Wallmart? Do you eat lettuce,onions or strawberries? Americans are not willing to pay the consumer prices that would be neccesary to pay the wages to get the "workers undercut by illegal workers" to go to work.It is easy to blame it own big business but it is actually the very same market forces expoused by most on this forum.It is just as racist to presume the Hispanic is being "exploited" at the wage he is working for as it is to say blacks are not willing to work.


67 posted on 05/16/2005 1:47:34 PM PDT by Blessed
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To: Happy2BMe
Thanks for this ping, Happy!

Char :)

68 posted on 05/16/2005 1:48:42 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Not gonna be happy until the Hillster is sent packing, with Billery in tow. on a leash.........)
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To: keats5

Absolutely. Mexico is the strangest combination of "I'm insecure around white men, but I better be the lightest shade of mestizo." They're more racist than Americans.


69 posted on 05/16/2005 1:49:58 PM PDT by ruthles (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean people aren't out to get you.)
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To: Blessed

"Do you shop at Wallmart? Do you eat lettuce,onions or strawberries?..."

It sounds to me like you're groping for reasons to justify this? Bottomline, in a right/wrong context, from the perspective of America this is wrong.
If Mexicans legally immigrate, fine. Illegal immigration is just that illegal. Is there something complex about illegal you don't understand?
It's my opinion, not one that is shared by many here, that there is more to life, and a country than market forces.

What is it? Are you just irritated that this is a sector that's impossible to offshore outsource?
Referring to the market forces... if it's a job that must be done, someone will do it. Without illegals, a business will have to pay what it takes to get it done, and pass it on to the consumer. Seems reasonable to me.
Are you just a bit rankled that Apu or Xaio can't do these jobs?

BTW, I don't shop at WalMart.


70 posted on 05/16/2005 2:00:35 PM PDT by brownsfan (Post No Bills)
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To: Happy2BMe
Crosslinked:

For "Thunder on the Border," click this picture:

...and allow me to drop out of Lurkin' & Linkin' mode for a moment to vent my spleen.

The whole "work Americans don't want to do" meme or shibboleth has offended me from the start, but Fox's ill-conceived, elitist, and arrogant blatherings take it to a new level of noxiousness.

I've done everything from dig ditches to run small corporations, and one thing driven into my head by my Father ( who started so poor you would not believe it, and ended up pretty well-off. ) was that all needed, honest work was honorable.

And one thing I learned in years or working was that if you wanted build a house, drive a road through a mountain or swamp, or program a computer- you got a bunch of Americans together, and they'd get the job done.

71 posted on 05/16/2005 2:14:55 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: brownsfan
I am simply pointing out the American consumer will not pay the price.The lettuce is either picked at the price that can be supported in this country or it will be imported from fields in South America.Walmart,Target and every other retailer is in price competition.80% of their goods are made overseas.It is impossible to collect a premium price on any product that is not unique.Exclusive geography or convenience no longer exists as a competitive tool.Look at the latest ruling preventing states from regulating wine sales.Consumers are just as responsible as those who employ the illegals.
72 posted on 05/16/2005 2:16:39 PM PDT by Blessed
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To: SmithL

Scumbag Fox was educated in the US and knows all about the black racial flashpoints, he has no excuse. Neither do employers who knowingly employ Illegals.


73 posted on 05/16/2005 2:21:22 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Happy2BMe
El Presidente Fox is a disaster...



THANKS FOR THE PING

74 posted on 05/16/2005 4:06:06 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: brownsfan; Blessed; backhoe; CHARLITE; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; ...
Myths and lies of illegal immigration
 

75 posted on 05/16/2005 4:51:22 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Smartass

Ahh, the Long Hot Summer of 2005....we should start a ping list.

76 posted on 05/16/2005 5:04:53 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: SmithL
"Don't worry Vincente, my peons are so stupid, they'll forget about this in a week.

Then we can pass the guest worker amnesty."


77 posted on 05/16/2005 5:14:41 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: rdb3

Fox is a racist/elitist who urinates on his own people
and sends the least desirable, least educated(mostly the Mexican govts' failure that leaves them in a state of peasantry like this) for us to take care of.

Bush has some private deal with Fox, so he will leave it to underlings to gently slap Fox. The statement by Fox is an outrage!!


78 posted on 05/16/2005 6:12:06 PM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: tiamat

Agreed! Why is it okay to break some laws, and not others?

If I ever get arrested, I will ask the judge if the crime I allegedly committed on the list of "APPROVED CRIMES" with no prosecution, and no penalty.


79 posted on 05/16/2005 6:14:43 PM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: Happy2BMe
Come on Happy, you didn't think Foxy Fox would admit to being a racist now did you?
80 posted on 05/16/2005 6:16:17 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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