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Everything I learned about successful TV from 'Everybody Loves Raymond'
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | May 15, 2005 | Rob Owen

Posted on 05/16/2005 7:40:32 AM PDT by AmishDude

The success of CBS's "Everybody Loves Raymond" offers several lessons today's TV executives would do well to recognize:

It takes time to grow a hit.

When "Raymond" premiered in September 1996, the show aired at 8:30 p.m. Friday and had terrible ratings. Critics raved about it, but viewers didn't find it. CBS paid attention to the critical plaudits and moved "Raymond" to 8:30 p.m. Monday in 1997, where it grew into a hit.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: lessons; raymond; tv
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To: mupcat

"Frasier" is probably one of the most intelligent and well-written sit-coms ever produced in this country. To find a series as well done, you would usually have to look to the Britcoms for stuff like "Fawlty Towers" or "Father Ted".


121 posted on 05/16/2005 11:07:44 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (From Roe v Wade to Terri Schiavo, the RATS have become a death cult...)
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To: AggieCPA

agreed. sports night was one of the best shows ever.


122 posted on 05/16/2005 11:09:18 AM PDT by timtoews5292004
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To: CyberAnt
I'm using the VCR solution.

Failing that, there are ways to acquire TV episodes on the net.

123 posted on 05/16/2005 11:11:22 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "Very well put, AD. As usual." -- Howlin; "ROFL!" -- Dan from Michigan)
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To: R. Scott
I did watch “Cheers” and “Frasier”, but they had some variety in their scripts.

Yeah, and it wasn't what I call pratfall comedy. Just beautifully written with a lot of unexpected humor.

124 posted on 05/16/2005 11:13:24 AM PDT by mupcat
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To: ozzymandus

I'm actually not a big fan of ELR, but I won't turn it off if I run across it. My perception is that Raymond is actually marginally smarter than his wife, but that there's nothing he can do about it. Which is pretty much real life.


125 posted on 05/16/2005 11:14:17 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "Very well put, AD. As usual." -- Howlin; "ROFL!" -- Dan from Michigan)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
"Frasier" is probably one of the most intelligent and well-written sit-coms ever produced in this country. To find a series as well done, you would usually have to look to the Britcoms for stuff like "Fawlty Towers" or "Father Ted".

Boy, I couldn't agree with you more, and how refreshing it is to hear someone else who thinks that. Thought I was a "lone voice crying in the wilderness". Haven't seen "Father Ted", but really enjoy most of "Fawlty Towers".

126 posted on 05/16/2005 11:19:08 AM PDT by mupcat
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To: RetiredArmy

so much for the private passing of an olive branch, eh? those who cannot handle having their opinions challenged on anonymous internet forums should perhaps consider taking up a new hobby. Can I suggest baking?


127 posted on 05/16/2005 11:22:00 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Hatteras

Very funny! My brother brought over a DVD of "They Call Me Tator Salad" and I laughed so hard I think I cracked a rib!


128 posted on 05/16/2005 11:22:16 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: mupcat

"Father Ted" ran for three years in the late '90s and was absolutely hillarious. I think it's available on DVD, and if you have it, BBCAmerica plays reruns from time to time. PBS runs it now and then, but usually during pledge drives.(BOO!)


129 posted on 05/16/2005 11:23:47 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (From Roe v Wade to Terri Schiavo, the RATS have become a death cult...)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)

I like the BBC sitcom with the female priest...can't think of her name or the show. Also the one about the black chef. (Drawing a blank today!)


130 posted on 05/16/2005 11:24:58 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: RetiredArmy

Well aren't you just little Mary Sunshine.

Have a great day!


131 posted on 05/16/2005 11:26:37 AM PDT by SONbrad
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To: mupcat

Yep. Plus, I could relate to the characters on “Cheers” and “Frasier”. I knew people like them. That was not true with “Sienfield” or “Raymond”.


132 posted on 05/16/2005 11:36:55 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: bonfire

Not sure, I think they are taping it now.


133 posted on 05/16/2005 11:37:17 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Behind every successful man is a woman rolling her eyes.)
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To: R. Scott

You haven't met my in-laws then. My MIL IS Marie! Always a little knife in the back......and no one is good enough for HER boys. Because of ELR, I can now laugh at her attempts to undermine me!


134 posted on 05/16/2005 11:40:40 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: massgopguy; Balding_Eagle
Great. She's one of the few Conservatives in Hollywood and you don't like her character.

One has nothing to do with the other.

I can appreciate Clint Eastwood, Charlton Heston, Ronald Reagan, Shannon Doherty, etc. for who they are as Conservatives, while not enjoying every single character these actors portrayed. The same holds true for Ms. Heaton.

135 posted on 05/16/2005 11:41:15 AM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: WV Mountain Mama

Thanks. Now that they've cancelled "Carnivale" and Soprano's being in the last season, I may have to cancel HBO.


136 posted on 05/16/2005 11:42:25 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: bonfire

Good thing you can no laugh.


137 posted on 05/16/2005 11:45:39 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
[ The overriding theme of successful tv comedy is to make the principle male look like an idiot and a wimp whose wife barely tolerates his existance. ]

Exactly...
Your basic Femi-Sitcom, male bashing, especially white male bashing.. opiate of the much maligned Oprah Harpocrites and Hillaryphonic riders of brooms(with vibrator).. male or female..

138 posted on 05/16/2005 11:47:16 AM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe

I would suggest that you haven't watched much of this particular show. There is plenty of Debra and Marie "bashing", if you want to call it that, in this show. I have to say that the producers and writers seem to make all characters fair game for showing their foibles.

Marie is the "nosy Mother in Law" that tries to bend everyone to her will.

Debra is the high-strung, has to be right about everything, thinks she's better than everyone else, wants-everything-perfect, wife.

Ray is the lazy, sports-obsessed, spoiled by his mama, husband.

Frank is the grouchy, demanding, hard-as-nails, father-in-law.

Robert is the sad, second-favorite, jealous, obsessed, brother.

Yet, throughout the show's run, they have all been shown in ppositive lights throughout the show in different ways.


139 posted on 05/16/2005 11:58:43 AM PDT by SONbrad
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To: hosepipe

It crosses racial boundaries. Look at the sitcom with George Lopez.


140 posted on 05/16/2005 12:20:38 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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