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To: ThirstyMan

I don't think Bush is a "loser," and it's ludicrous to say that he is -- but it's still a valid opinion -- and yeah, it cheapens the discourse, but both parties do so. That's not to say it's good -- I just don't like political correctness.

As for "sedition," it's tough for me to balance national security with free speech. "Sedition" wasn't part of the Constitution, and was abused in its early forms -- requiring newspapers to conform to a standard that the courts would laugh at, today. I would say that to prove sedition, you'd have to prove, first, that it was reckless disregard -- which is really hard to prove. That said, Newsweek should have known better than to sensationalize something like this. Their gatekeepers need to get some sense in their heads.


29 posted on 05/16/2005 12:27:56 AM PDT by MsJefferson (Self-evident)
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To: MsJefferson
No their gaterkeepers do not need sense, the reporter does not need to be fired, their policies do not need to be changed. The magazine needs to stop, fold up shop, go away, die. Everyone in the country needs to never look at it again, or advertise in it, or patronize anything or anyone that does. They are out and out commies deliberately spreading agitprop trying to lose us this war. We have no need for them whatever, they add nothing to the world, they are a pestilence and should just shut up and go away.
30 posted on 05/16/2005 12:46:55 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: MsJefferson
I don't think Bush is a "loser," and it's ludicrous to say that he is -- but it's still a valid opinion -- and yeah, it cheapens the discourse, but both parties do so. That's not to say it's good -- I just don't like political correctness.

Reid has the constitutional right to behave as a disrespectful and shallow thinker in front of a bunch of high school juniors, even if it makes him sound like Howard Dean's crankier brother.

32 posted on 05/16/2005 5:27:30 AM PDT by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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To: MsJefferson
I don't think Bush is a "loser," and it's ludicrous to say that he is -- but it's still a valid opinion --

I can't see how it's a "valid" opinion. It's ad-hominem that's all, not a valid conclusion based on fact. Bush won the election, gained seats in House and Senate and now makes the opposition look petty. He has achieved so much in 4 years that the "loser" label doesn't fit him at all. Now if you are one who'd say that all opinions are valid and equal no matter how factually accurate they are, then we're really not discussing Reid's comments.

As for "sedition," it's tough for me to balance national security with free speech. "Sedition" wasn't part of the Constitution, and was abused in its early forms -- requiring newspapers to conform to a standard that the courts would laugh at, today.

Well my comment was qualified by the word, "historically". We have no laws for sedition and we can't go arrest him. He survives in our tolerant Country. In Rome sedition was a death penalty crime. Reckless comments that incited riots leading to death would have been punished by death. The most obvious example would be Barabbas. (see Matthew 27)

would say that to prove sedition, you'd have to prove, first, that it was reckless disregard -- which is really hard to prove.

OTOH, this stupid person's reporting is akin to yelling fire in a crowded theater, which we do have laws against.

That said, Newsweek should have known better than to sensationalize something like this. Their gatekeepers need to get some sense in their heads.

Not sure where that "sense" would come from, if not from God.
These people are hostile, God-hating, America demeaning leeches.
Where would you suggest they go to get some "sense"?

33 posted on 05/16/2005 7:59:13 AM PDT by ThirstyMan
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