Proposed NJ Law: Seize Homes w/Illegal Guns

World Net Daily ^ | May 10, 2005 | Ron Strom

[Spirited]

My word, sections of NJ would be totally vacant if they removed illegals.

[ZULU]

Manzo and criminals like him in office is what Magna Charta, Lexington and Concord, and the guillotine were all about.

Americans have just become too lazy, ignorant and apathetic to realize it.

[ozarkgirl]

Hate your neighbor? Toss a gun on his property and call the police

That's what I was thinking, this really opens the door for corruption.

And what is an "illegal" gun, maybe a pistol your grandpa gave you that never was registered, and you lose your entire life's accumulation. It's a stupid, stupid law, I'm sure it won't pass.

[Reaganghost]

Remember the movie, Enemy of the State?

We have enough laws now that we are all potential enemies of the state. Will we be looking back someday with a rallying cry of "Remember the Davidians"?

It is my personal opinion that we are more likely to see the middle east turned into glass than the US is to be brought down by a coalition of oil shieks and camel jockeys. In the mean time, government mandated socialism is destroying the capital base that has been the cornerstone of our ability to defend ourselves and our ability to defend our freedoms. Socialism is nothing more than government mandated involuntary servitude.

I think there is room to broaden the debate regarding who constitutes the greater threat to our freedoms and our liberties? When the fundamental freedom on which all of our personal abilities to defend ourselves against all enemies, foreign and domestic, has the potential to make us all enemies of the state, there is something radically wrong. And if the fact that this has been proposed as law by an elected public official should send chills of fear down the spine of thinking people who value freedom and the values on which this country was founded. This is the type of proposal one would expect from government officials from the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany. This man has a total disregard for United States Constitution, particularly the Fifth and Second Amendments. Such proposals are how the rule of law is replaced by the rule of men.

[Lazamataz]

NYPD has a sign on the BQE touting the thousands of cars taken from drunk drivers--BEFORE they were convicted! I laugh when I hear someone say we live in "a nation of law". No we don't and gov't knows it and likes it that way.

No lie.

We defeated the Soviet Union.

Then we became them.

[publiusF27]

Don't sound so shocked. This has been going on for quite some time. I first became interested in the issue when a boat belonging to the father of a friend was confiscated, along with a smaller boat which was in tow, back in the early 1990s.

The owner of the boat is the most friendly, law-abiding person I think I have ever met. He was doing a favor for a Bahamian he had known for many years. The guy asked for a ride across the Gulf Stream to Miami. He had no idea that the guy, upon learning that Customs and Immigration were coming down to see him, would just take off from the dock and disappear.

His boat committed a crime, the clear suspicion was that the Bahamian was carrying drugs. His other boat was in tow at the time. Both were taken and allowed to deteriorate in a holding yard, where he could not maintain them, for months. He fought in court all that time, and finally got them back when those leftist property rights haters over at CBS 60 Minutes got wind of the story.

There were never any charges against my friend. Civil forfeiture, unlike criminal forfeiture, does not require that. The PROPERTY is guilty, not necessarily the person.

But why bother convicting drug dealers when it is soooo much easier to just take their stuff? Or the stuff of anyone who happens to be around...

[Smedley]

Better yet, toss a gun onto the property of every Democrat politician in NJ, then call the police. Make sure Louis Manzo is the first one.

[P.O.E.]

Why not? They're already grabbing properties left and right in the name of "eminent domain". Properties which just so happen to be part of burgeoning developments (guess who pockets the profits?)

[uncbob]

Blame the damn voters who DESPITE all the corruption still yank the democrat lever

Course Whitman wasn't much better

[Lazamataz]

It's a stupid, stupid law, I'm sure it won't pass.

Does it afford the suspect almost no rights and recourses? Does it profit the government?

It will pass.

[Colorado Buckeye]

Yet another reason for not living in NJ.

Indeed. New Jersey is definitely on my list of states to not take a job in or move to. It's a growing list with California in the number one position.

[Colorado Buckeye]

At first I thought this said homes with illegal immigrants!

I'm sure they will be exempt from this law if it passes.

[skinkinthegrass]

It's a stupid, stupid law, I'm sure it won't pass.

...but, Its' New Jersey. :D

[R. Scott]

I really don’t want to see bloody riots in the streets or another revolution – but how much can The People take?

[AmericanChef]

Looks like NJ will then be the first 100% state gubmint-owned state in the union then!

Thing is, they'll take the property from otherwise law-abiding citizens, and none from the hoodlums who operate freely in Jersey because they're all related.

[AmericanChef]

Looks like NJ will then be the first 100% state gubmint-owned state in the union then!

Thing is, they'll take the property from otherwise law-abiding citizens, and none from the hoodlums who operate freely in Jersey because they're all related.

[R. Scott]

It shouldn’t surprise me that what has been so successful for the “war” on drugs should be adopted by the war on the 2nd Amendment 4th Amendments to our Federal Constitution. I am shocked that The People allow it to happen.

[Pharmboy]

Excellent observation...these demonrats will never get it--even after losing election after election.

[publiusF27]

It is not so shocking that people allow it to happen, when you consider that we Americans are actually pretty free when compared to most any human who has ever lived. Life is not so bad in our socialist paradise. They probably won't seize your house.

Probably.

[o_zarkman44]

Draconian siezure tactics. Government profits considerably from property siezures. Find more ways to take property, take more property. Add firearms to the mix and it becomes acceptable. Thieves!